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	<title>Comments on: Deadpan the Reaper</title>
	<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/</link>
	<description>Home base for the Deadpan podcast, Spherical Tomi, Duel of the Fates, Dirk Moonfire, and all things Jack Mangan</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ed from Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174803</link>
		<author>Ed from Texas</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174803</guid>
					<description>The Pans!  They're all Dead!


Nice work, Cheyenne!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pans!  They&#8217;re all Dead!</p>
<p>Nice work, Cheyenne!</p>
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		<title>By: justa J0e</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174812</link>
		<author>justa J0e</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174812</guid>
					<description>I'm jealous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m jealous.</p>
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		<title>By: Trucker Overdrive</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174817</link>
		<author>Trucker Overdrive</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174817</guid>
					<description>very cool.  I would love to see dead pan comic in that style.  best of tid-bit and what not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very cool.  I would love to see dead pan comic in that style.  best of tid-bit and what not.</p>
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		<title>By: Trucker Overdrive</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174818</link>
		<author>Trucker Overdrive</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174818</guid>
					<description>OHHHH!  I know see the link.  I will have to read his comic.  very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OHHHH!  I know see the link.  I will have to read his comic.  very cool.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174828</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174828</guid>
					<description>Number 5 is alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number 5 is alive.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174835</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174835</guid>
					<description>Do we know anybody who wants a snake?

Since that we found the last missing one yesterday, we now have three of the silly things, which is too many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we know anybody who wants a snake?</p>
<p>Since that we found the last missing one yesterday, we now have three of the silly things, which is too many.</p>
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		<title>By: ditto</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174836</link>
		<author>ditto</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174836</guid>
					<description>Very, very nice! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very nice! <img src='http://www.jackmangan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ditto</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174842</link>
		<author>ditto</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174842</guid>
					<description>Maybe Cheyenne can create a version with a banner with that image and a trail of deadpans in front of you. Or even a bunch of live pans rebelling against their overlord. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Cheyenne can create a version with a banner with that image and a trail of deadpans in front of you. Or even a bunch of live pans rebelling against their overlord. <img src='http://www.jackmangan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174843</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174843</guid>
					<description>Just heard the unshow.   450 hmmmm.  We need more ABC's!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just heard the unshow.   450 hmmmm.  We need more ABC&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174845</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174845</guid>
					<description>Just donated, Jack.

Here's the link if anybody is interested.

http://casizemoregift.chipin.com/ca-sizemore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just donated, Jack.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link if anybody is interested.</p>
<p><a href="http://casizemoregift.chipin.com/ca-sizemore" rel="nofollow">http://casizemoregift.chipin.com/ca-sizemore</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rhettro</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174850</link>
		<author>Rhettro</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174850</guid>
					<description>Cool stuff!  Who does Tee Morris have to blow for me to get my own characterature?  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool stuff!  Who does Tee Morris have to blow for me to get my own characterature?  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174856</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174856</guid>
					<description>Ok, in an effort to up the comments (and avoid work), I'm going to try to do the ABC's of animal puns.

A - Ant

An anthill developed a foul smell so they brought in a deodor-ant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, in an effort to up the comments (and avoid work), I&#8217;m going to try to do the ABC&#8217;s of animal puns.</p>
<p>A - Ant</p>
<p>An anthill developed a foul smell so they brought in a deodor-ant.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174857</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174857</guid>
					<description>B - Bat
Batman's crime fighting-partner could not swim, but he could float. He was known as Robin the Buoy Wonder.

(ok, so not really, but I thought it was funny when it was told to me)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B - Bat<br />
Batman&#8217;s crime fighting-partner could not swim, but he could float. He was known as Robin the Buoy Wonder.</p>
<p>(ok, so not really, but I thought it was funny when it was told to me)</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174858</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174858</guid>
					<description>B - Bug

I once knew someone who put bug spray on his watch to get rid of the ticks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B - Bug</p>
<p>I once knew someone who put bug spray on his watch to get rid of the ticks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174860</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174860</guid>
					<description>C - Cat

If cats could read, would they paws after each claws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C - Cat</p>
<p>If cats could read, would they paws after each claws?</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174861</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174861</guid>
					<description>D - Dog

I once owned a black and white spotted dog I named Stains.  I could never understand why the neighbours all looked at me strange whenever I called him, "come, Stains!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D - Dog</p>
<p>I once owned a black and white spotted dog I named Stains.  I could never understand why the neighbours all looked at me strange whenever I called him, &#8220;come, Stains!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174862</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174862</guid>
					<description>E - Elephant

An elephant's opinion carries a lot of weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E - Elephant</p>
<p>An elephant&#8217;s opinion carries a lot of weight.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174863</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174863</guid>
					<description>Ok, that was dumb, try this

E - Eel

The snakelike fish was well read on a wide variety of subjects. He was an eclectic eel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, that was dumb, try this</p>
<p>E - Eel</p>
<p>The snakelike fish was well read on a wide variety of subjects. He was an eclectic eel.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174864</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174864</guid>
					<description>F - Fish

When fish are in schools they sometimes take debate.

Or

Even though food was plentiful, the whale was depressed and wanted to end it all. He said, "Goodbye, krill world." Okay, okay, I admit that I am prawn to bad puns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F - Fish</p>
<p>When fish are in schools they sometimes take debate.</p>
<p>Or</p>
<p>Even though food was plentiful, the whale was depressed and wanted to end it all. He said, &#8220;Goodbye, krill world.&#8221; Okay, okay, I admit that I am prawn to bad puns.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174865</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174865</guid>
					<description>G - Goat

My pet Billy Goat is very tame. I named him Parkay because he is not a butter. Just kidding. Don't get gruff with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G - Goat</p>
<p>My pet Billy Goat is very tame. I named him Parkay because he is not a butter. Just kidding. Don&#8217;t get gruff with me.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174867</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174867</guid>
					<description>H - Hamster

I once had an ailing hamster but he revived after receiving mouse to mouse resuscitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H - Hamster</p>
<p>I once had an ailing hamster but he revived after receiving mouse to mouse resuscitation.</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174868</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174868</guid>
					<description>I have to think about I.

Will be back in a bit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to think about I.</p>
<p>Will be back in a bit</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174871</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174871</guid>
					<description>Have a few things to do.  will come back after lunch and finish ABC's</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a few things to do.  will come back after lunch and finish ABC&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: The Energizer Bunny</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174873</link>
		<author>The Energizer Bunny</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174873</guid>
					<description>Meanwhile, I couldn't think of I, so here's someone else's take on Impala

http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/i/impala.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, I couldn&#8217;t think of I, so here&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s take on Impala</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/i/impala.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/i/impala.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: EssBee</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174881</link>
		<author>EssBee</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174881</guid>
					<description>Gay marriage now legal in CA:

http://tiny.cc/YthzI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay marriage now legal in CA:</p>
<p><a href="http://tiny.cc/YthzI" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/YthzI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vanamonde</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174883</link>
		<author>Vanamonde</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174883</guid>
					<description>TEB the ABCs should be on the unshow 14 comments page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEB the ABCs should be on the unshow 14 comments page.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mangan</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174893</link>
		<author>Jack Mangan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174893</guid>
					<description>Doesn't matter to me, I ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter to me, I ca</p>
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		<title>By: Vanamonde</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174896</link>
		<author>Vanamonde</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174896</guid>
					<description>Yeah should was too presumptuous, apologies TEB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah should was too presumptuous, apologies TEB.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhettro</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174916</link>
		<author>Rhettro</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174916</guid>
					<description>That's too bad about CA.  I don't want gay men in committed monogamous marriages. I want them out there with as many partners as possible!  That way there'll be less competition for straight women!  Well, I'm in a monogamous relationship myself, but think about my son's future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s too bad about CA.  I don&#8217;t want gay men in committed monogamous marriages. I want them out there with as many partners as possible!  That way there&#8217;ll be less competition for straight women!  Well, I&#8217;m in a monogamous relationship myself, but think about my son&#8217;s future!</p>
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		<title>By: Trucker Overdrive</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174961</link>
		<author>Trucker Overdrive</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174961</guid>
					<description>Rhettro, don't you want your son to settle down with a nice boy and have the wedding you always longed for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhettro, don&#8217;t you want your son to settle down with a nice boy and have the wedding you always longed for?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhettro</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174964</link>
		<author>Rhettro</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174964</guid>
					<description>Hell no!  You know how much a California wedding would cost?!!  And with the bride's father typically footing the cost of the wedding, I thought I would dodge that bullet with my son, but with two grooms I'm sure I'd have to go halves at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell no!  You know how much a California wedding would cost?!!  And with the bride&#8217;s father typically footing the cost of the wedding, I thought I would dodge that bullet with my son, but with two grooms I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d have to go halves at least.</p>
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		<title>By: justa J0e</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174990</link>
		<author>justa J0e</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hmmmm
Okay - here's an idea.

I think that there are two separate ideas working here that have become mingled (mangled?) over the years.

There is a government acknowledged union which is a mater of bookkeeping. The government needs to know how to classify a household for tax and benefit purposes (and now for regulated insurance purposes). The Chromosomes should be irrelevant for this discussion. If 2 people are signing a public contract to take care of one another ... that eases the burden on society and is a good thing.

Then there is a social, religious backed "marriage".  This is a public statement made by two individuals in the eyes of their church (whatever denomination or sect that may be) that they are committed to take care of one another for the rest of their lives in accordance to their religious beliefs.
The government should have absolutely no say in what any religious group decides is a "marriage" in their belief although the religious belief.
To go along with this though, the government should not have to recognize ANY religious based contract as having any legal standing. So if your religion says you can marry a tree, well fine ... but you can't declare the tree on your taxes. Also if your religion says you can marry a 4 year old ... well fine. If you get caught having sex with the child though you will be prosecuted for breaking a law. 

So, I believe you have a personal, religious based "marriage" and then you have a government, licensed based "partnership" or contract.

While the two ideas may have some intersecting goals they really have separate masters and therefor, the two should keep their hands off one another.

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm<br />
Okay - here&#8217;s an idea.</p>
<p>I think that there are two separate ideas working here that have become mingled (mangled?) over the years.</p>
<p>There is a government acknowledged union which is a mater of bookkeeping. The government needs to know how to classify a household for tax and benefit purposes (and now for regulated insurance purposes). The Chromosomes should be irrelevant for this discussion. If 2 people are signing a public contract to take care of one another &#8230; that eases the burden on society and is a good thing.</p>
<p>Then there is a social, religious backed &#8220;marriage&#8221;.  This is a public statement made by two individuals in the eyes of their church (whatever denomination or sect that may be) that they are committed to take care of one another for the rest of their lives in accordance to their religious beliefs.<br />
The government should have absolutely no say in what any religious group decides is a &#8220;marriage&#8221; in their belief although the religious belief.<br />
To go along with this though, the government should not have to recognize ANY religious based contract as having any legal standing. So if your religion says you can marry a tree, well fine &#8230; but you can&#8217;t declare the tree on your taxes. Also if your religion says you can marry a 4 year old &#8230; well fine. If you get caught having sex with the child though you will be prosecuted for breaking a law. </p>
<p>So, I believe you have a personal, religious based &#8220;marriage&#8221; and then you have a government, licensed based &#8220;partnership&#8221; or contract.</p>
<p>While the two ideas may have some intersecting goals they really have separate masters and therefor, the two should keep their hands off one another.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhettro</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174997</link>
		<author>Rhettro</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174997</guid>
					<description>Seems like we talked about this a few years ago.  My take: there is supposed to be separation of church and state and marriage has both legal and religious aspects.  In my mind, the government shouldn't issue anything with the word "marriage" on it for anyone, straight or gay.  As far as the state is concerned they should issue "articles of partnership" etc. that lay-out the tax, child rearing etc. ramifications.  If you want a marriage license, you then go to the religious institution of your choice and receive one, but that license would have no legal status what-so-ever.  Then we could get around ticked off religious people saying the state was redefining their faith and people wanting to have a marraige wouldn't be provented from having one based on the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like we talked about this a few years ago.  My take: there is supposed to be separation of church and state and marriage has both legal and religious aspects.  In my mind, the government shouldn&#8217;t issue anything with the word &#8220;marriage&#8221; on it for anyone, straight or gay.  As far as the state is concerned they should issue &#8220;articles of partnership&#8221; etc. that lay-out the tax, child rearing etc. ramifications.  If you want a marriage license, you then go to the religious institution of your choice and receive one, but that license would have no legal status what-so-ever.  Then we could get around ticked off religious people saying the state was redefining their faith and people wanting to have a marraige wouldn&#8217;t be provented from having one based on the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhettro</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174999</link>
		<author>Rhettro</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-174999</guid>
					<description>I'm pretty sure "provented" isn't a real word, let's use "prevented."  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure &#8220;provented&#8221; isn&#8217;t a real word, let&#8217;s use &#8220;prevented.&#8221;  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: justa J0e</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175014</link>
		<author>justa J0e</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175014</guid>
					<description>maybe "provented" SHOULD be a word. :)

My thinking is that besides the benifits that Rhet just stated ... perhaps it would provide economic insentives for the young to take care of the elderly.

What if a 20 something, just out of college (good income single) wanted to have her elderly aunt come and live with her. WOuldn't it be in societies best interest to foster this sort of relationship? Talk about your "traditional family value"!
So why not allow the two to have the same financial benifits that are given to a "married" couple? In the idea that has been mentioned by myself and Rhet ... the yuppie and her aunt could be given "partnership status" which would be to everyone's benifit ... as long as the Aunt was really cool and didn't smell like "old people".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe &#8220;provented&#8221; SHOULD be a word. <img src='http://www.jackmangan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My thinking is that besides the benifits that Rhet just stated &#8230; perhaps it would provide economic insentives for the young to take care of the elderly.</p>
<p>What if a 20 something, just out of college (good income single) wanted to have her elderly aunt come and live with her. WOuldn&#8217;t it be in societies best interest to foster this sort of relationship? Talk about your &#8220;traditional family value&#8221;!<br />
So why not allow the two to have the same financial benifits that are given to a &#8220;married&#8221; couple? In the idea that has been mentioned by myself and Rhet &#8230; the yuppie and her aunt could be given &#8220;partnership status&#8221; which would be to everyone&#8217;s benifit &#8230; as long as the Aunt was really cool and didn&#8217;t smell like &#8220;old people&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanamonde</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175016</link>
		<author>Vanamonde</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175016</guid>
					<description>A fate that waits us all if we are lucky.</description>
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		<title>By: Rhettro</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175018</link>
		<author>Rhettro</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175018</guid>
					<description>Dude!  You married your Aunt? LOL  

Actually I agree completely, there are a lot of non traditional families that could bennefit by a legally protected status of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude!  You married your Aunt? LOL  </p>
<p>Actually I agree completely, there are a lot of non traditional families that could bennefit by a legally protected status of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: The Smarty Hotties®</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175027</link>
		<author>The Smarty Hotties®</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175027</guid>
					<description>Great pic Cheyenne!!!

Re Marriage, I agree with you j0e. "Marriage" is a religious based institution and it should be separate from the government acknowledged and sanctioned union. Separation of church and state is an idea we need to revisit as a whole in this country.

I also think a religion can decide its rules if only man and woman means marriage, then fine, its your religion, keep it in your religion. The government on the other hand should not be tainted by religion (separation of church and state) and should allow all unions. Religion is a choice, the religion chooses its rules, and you choose to live under those rules, but the government is supposed to provide for ALL its citizens (and in the case of illegal immigrants it provides for people who are not citizens too) Gay people are citizens of the united states. end of argument, they should be able to have a government sanctioned union.

Hugh and I were never marred in a church, we don't recognize our union as a religious sacrament. I would be more than happy to call us a united couple or a joined couple instead of a married couple. I have no desire to deman I be considered married. Marruage is a religious sacrament and religion had nothing to do with our union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pic Cheyenne!!!</p>
<p>Re Marriage, I agree with you j0e. &#8220;Marriage&#8221; is a religious based institution and it should be separate from the government acknowledged and sanctioned union. Separation of church and state is an idea we need to revisit as a whole in this country.</p>
<p>I also think a religion can decide its rules if only man and woman means marriage, then fine, its your religion, keep it in your religion. The government on the other hand should not be tainted by religion (separation of church and state) and should allow all unions. Religion is a choice, the religion chooses its rules, and you choose to live under those rules, but the government is supposed to provide for ALL its citizens (and in the case of illegal immigrants it provides for people who are not citizens too) Gay people are citizens of the united states. end of argument, they should be able to have a government sanctioned union.</p>
<p>Hugh and I were never marred in a church, we don&#8217;t recognize our union as a religious sacrament. I would be more than happy to call us a united couple or a joined couple instead of a married couple. I have no desire to deman I be considered married. Marruage is a religious sacrament and religion had nothing to do with our union.</p>
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		<title>By: The Smarty Hotties®</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175028</link>
		<author>The Smarty Hotties®</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175028</guid>
					<description>it would be amazing if I could spelt and writ goodly engerlish</description>
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		<title>By: The Smarty Hotties®</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175029</link>
		<author>The Smarty Hotties®</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175029</guid>
					<description>it would be awesome if we could dance</description>
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		<title>By: justa J0e</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175075</link>
		<author>justa J0e</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175075</guid>
					<description>"religion had nothing to do with our union."

Then why is it all I hear from the next room is "Oh God! Oh God! YES!" ?

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;religion had nothing to do with our union.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why is it all I hear from the next room is &#8220;Oh God! Oh God! YES!&#8221; ?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.jackmangan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JohnBoze</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175081</link>
		<author>JohnBoze</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175081</guid>
					<description>As my friend Cyn says that is the "Dear God of Fuck"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my friend Cyn says that is the &#8220;Dear God of Fuck&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Smarty Hotties®</title>
		<link>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175123</link>
		<author>The Smarty Hotties®</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 07:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jackmangan.com/2008/05/14/deadpan-the-reaper/#comment-175123</guid>
					<description>I like that: Dear God of Fuck :)

No, actually Hugh likes to think its him who is this "God" I am calling to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that: Dear God of Fuck <img src='http://www.jackmangan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No, actually Hugh likes to think its him who is this &#8220;God&#8221; I am calling to.</p>
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