Jack Mangan’s Deadpan #99: Goofy Gym Class Goggles Happiness

Lay Shw Nos

gene wilder court jester opening
introbab
geologic podcast promo
more bab
poetfox Deadpan is the waaaaaaaay
Scott from Kalamazoo Deadpan is the Way project
80s perspective
Climb into my spoon
Pink Floyd cover
80s perspective
Stolen Paragraph
:::::::Cynful channels David Gilmour
:::::::EssBee channels Jim Butcher
Contents of Vanamonde’s fridge
Scott from Kalamazoo Deadpan is the Way project – part 2
80s perspective
TEB Dumbass/Crazy Parents memory
outrobabble
Original music – Archipelago

 
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452 Responses to “Jack Mangan’s Deadpan #99: Goofy Gym Class Goggles Happiness”

  1. Vanamonde Says:

    Only the lonely….

  2. Ed from Texas Says:

    Dum-dum-dum-dumdy-doo-wah

  3. EssBee Says:

    Aqui es numero tres. Buenos dias, Deadpan!

  4. Vanamonde Says:

    Now that is just showing off EssBee..

  5. Vanamonde Says:

    CE: Chocolate covered raisins.

  6. Vanamonde Says:

    The streaming audio is still playing back too fast.

  7. ditto Says:

    7 again!

  8. Vanamonde Says:

    Can anybody click on the play button on the website and tell me if the audio plays back fine? just wondering if it’s a quirk with my linux system.

  9. ditto Says:

    Sounds fine to me, Van.

  10. Vanamonde Says:

    Very strange, I just checked and DP 97 plays fine but 99 plays like Jacks on crack.

  11. Vanamonde Says:

    Anyway I’m off iPhone hunting..

    /switch on melodrama mode

    I maybe some time…

    /switch off melodrama mode

  12. EssBee Says:

    Van, you cracked me up this morning w/ the “CE” thing. Hahaha!

    CD: Tazo China Green Tips tea

    CP: yesterday’s Democracy Now!

    Jack, your music is awesome. I LOVE it. As they say at the mariachi concerts, “Otro! Otro!”

  13. Cynful Says:

    Quick public note to Jack: I know you’re self conscious, but your music is great. Thank you for sharing.

  14. The Energizer Bunny Says:

    Morning Pan!

    Only in for a short time. In laws still in town for the next week, so still busy, busy, busy :)

  15. Dubshack Says:

    mmmm…. crack….

  16. ditto Says:

    Jack “Danny Kaye” Mangan strikes again.

  17. Vanamonde Says:

    Does that mean Jack is ambidextrous and has an identical twin?

    I’ve watched too many old movies…

  18. ditto Says:

    Jack “The Musical” Mangan

  19. ditto Says:

    Jack “Which one’s Pink?” Mangan

  20. ditto Says:

    Jack “Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!” Mangan

  21. Vanamonde Says:

    Still no bloody 3G iPhones.

  22. ditto Says:

    Any clean ones?

    Ba-dump-dum!

  23. ditto Says:

    Remember “Greed it good”? That was an ’80s movie.

  24. ditto Says:

    Jack “Emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm” Mangan

  25. ditto Says:

    Jack “Total Digression” Mangan

  26. ditto Says:

    Jack “Survey Monkey Master” Mangan

  27. EssBee Says:

    ditto, do you have an AKA?

  28. Vanamonde Says:

    Well I have a fondness for gadgets, it’s a character flaw I know..

  29. ditto Says:

    I’ve been known as “Da Grease Man” and “Mr ditto swoooooon”. :)

  30. ditto Says:

    Go go gadget Vanamonde!

  31. EssBee Says:

    I like both!

    CE: A banana

  32. Rhettro Says:

    “Would you like to pet my Survey Monkey?”

  33. Ed from Texas Says:

    Ditto, I was thinking the same thing. Didn’t the 80’s give us the yuppie?

    Of course, I think the 80’s were a different place for people of our age than it was for the baby boomers.

  34. EssBee Says:

    The yuppie! Knitted squared-off ties! Floppy disks!

  35. ditto Says:

    This conference call makes me want to shove spikes in my ears.

    Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

  36. EssBee Says:

    When I’m on calls like that, ditto, I estimate the amount in salaries being spent. Then I really get mad.

  37. ditto Says:

    The problem is they really believe they are being productive. :(

  38. ditto Says:

    CP: Shades of Gray — Amanda Marshall

  39. EssBee Says:

    Direct quote from an Evil, Inc. sales rep just now:

    “Alaska, unlike the other 50 states . . . “

  40. Jack Mangan Says:

    Thanks guy :)

    CP: Cornflake Girl – Tori Amos. I wasn’t even aware that my iPod had clicked on, only noticed when i suddenly heard music coming from my pocket.

  41. EssBee Says:

    Jack, is that an iPod in your pocket? Or are you just happy to see me?

  42. Cynful Says:

    CP: Dancing Boys v. Girls (No Doubt v Blur) mashed by ElectroSound

  43. Scott from Kalamazoo Says:

    Man I hate morning meetings on Thursday, delay’s my ‘pan fix until the afternoon.

    Holy crap it’s fracking hot outside…

  44. ditto Says:

    Yeah it is. It totally sucks when you no longer have AC in your car. :(

  45. EssBee Says:

    Scott – really liked your “Deadpan is the Way” contribution!

  46. Vanamonde Says:

    You know you have limited culinary skills when you screw up making reconstituted mash potato:

    “Pour contents of sachet into a bowl and add 425ml of boiling water, stir well with a fork”

    cough

  47. Jack Mangan Says:

    Scott had plenty more good stuff to say. You’ll be hearing more from him, over the next few episodes.

    And yes, EssBee. My iPod is happy to see you.

    CP: The hum of machinery and office building A/C.

  48. Vanamonde Says:

    I should be ok as long as I move very s-l-o-w-l-y for the next couple of hours.

  49. Dubshack Says:

    /tweet someone left Mikey in the car /tweet

  50. Vanamonde Says:

    With concrete shoes?

  51. EssBee Says:

    Van, that is pretty bad! I once had to throw a pot out because of instant mashers, though, so I can sympathize. Maybe order in?

    CP: Sick Of Me – Ani DiFranco

  52. Vanamonde Says:

    Oh I don’t like wasting food, so ate some of it.

    I suspect my centre of gravity has moved downwards though…

  53. ditto Says:

    CP: Open — The Cure

  54. ditto Says:

    Reconstituted concrete, Van?

  55. Vanamonde Says:

    That’s what it fees like ditto, lol!

  56. EssBee Says:

    If you have any loose tiles, act fast!

  57. Vanamonde Says:

    Tonight’s Retro game:

    (big drum roll)

    Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis – Amiga version

  58. ditto Says:

    Currently battling this bastard in NG2: Alexei
    http://stars.ign.com/objects/142/14253316.html

  59. ditto Says:

    CP: From the edge of the deep green sea — The Cure

  60. wndrwolf Says:

    The Amiga is retro?
    Has someone come from the future or am I stuck in the past?

  61. ditto Says:

    Very retro.

  62. Vanamonde Says:

    There is a link on the JC Hutchens site to a 40 minute lecture by the author Neal Stephenson (of Snow Crash and The Diamond Age fame):

    http://tinyurl.com/57rtzs

    There is also a link so you can download if you don’t want to watch streaming video.

  63. Vanamonde Says:

    insert

    ‘the video’

    in previous post.

  64. ditto Says:

    What’s the lecture on?

  65. Vanamonde Says:

    Have a listen to Sweeter Than This by Katie Herzig:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20xX37J90Ks

    I like her voice and this song is just very catchy.

  66. Vanamonde Says:

    Science Fiction as a Literary Genre

    Is the title of the lecture.

  67. ditto Says:

    thx

  68. EssBee Says:

    CP: Jack – Widespread Panic

  69. jackmangan Says:

    Can I get a *headdesk*? Amen, hallelujah.

    /end of dramatic vague general bitching.

  70. ditto Says:

    Cool Watchmen trailer
    http://io9.com/5026402/watch-how-faithful-watchmen-will-be

  71. ditto Says:

    *headdesk*
    Amen!
    Hallelujah!!!

  72. EssBee Says:

    Oooh, Watchmen trailer!

    Amen, brother! *headdesk*

  73. ditto Says:

    CP: The only place I can look is down — The Bishops

  74. Rhettro Says:

    *head… oh wait Watchmen Trailer?

    Ah, the webpage was down, but it found it on Youtube. Looks very cool. :)

  75. ditto Says:

    Jack “*headdesk*” Mangan

  76. ditto Says:

    CP: You won’t be mine — Matchbox 20

  77. Vanamonde Says:

    11 floppies!

    Feel the pain of retro gaming!

  78. Vanamonde Says:

    Can anybody explain headdesk?

    cough

  79. ditto Says:

    Take head. Smash on desk as a sign of frustration. Repeat.

  80. Rhettro Says:

    “Looks around frantically for someone that understands *facepalm* to explain *headdesk*”

  81. Rhettro Says:

    Ah, ditto understand the *headdesk*

  82. ditto Says:

    *headdesk* is usually triggered by dealing with individuals infected by this dreaded disease:
    http://www.zazzle.com/together_we_can_beat_c_r_i_2_shirt-235297237665112190

  83. EssBee Says:

    *Facepalm* and *headdesk* and *boobkeyboard*

    Man, I am surrounded by assholes at work, you guys.

  84. Vanamonde Says:

    Thx you and ouch!

  85. Vanamonde Says:

    Ah I work alone, usually the only nasty ones are customers.

  86. Rhettro Says:

    Assholes and elbows as it were.

  87. Rhettro Says:

    I’m more a fan of the *boobfaceplant*

  88. EssBee Says:

    *boobfaceplant* is a fun one

  89. ditto Says:

    Big fan of that one!

  90. jackmangan Says:

    BFP. I believe we’ve witnessed the birth of a beautiful new term here, folks.
    Nice one.

  91. ditto Says:

    BFP FTW!!!!

  92. EssBee Says:

    Here, here!!

    *BFP*

  93. Trucker Overdrive Says:

    down loading 99

  94. Vanamonde Says:

    +19 and you get an old TV series.

  95. Vanamonde Says:

    Just don’t go near any piles of radioactive waste, it never ends well.

  96. Ed from Texas Says:

    Damn that Watchmen trailer looked good. Appears consistent with reports that they are really trying to frame the sections of the movie to capture the original frames from the graphics novel.

  97. Vanamonde Says:

    The new He-Man movie looks naff though.

  98. jackmangan Says:

    She-Ra *BFP*

  99. ditto Says:

    Everyone see part 2 of Dr Horrible?

  100. Vanamonde Says:

    ten tens

    and not yet

  101. ditto Says:

    “You’re kidding. What a crazy random happenstance.”

  102. EssBee Says:

    “The hammer is my penis.”

  103. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    [ear bud]

    I was offered to photograph another music festival this coming weekend and have been familiarizing myself with the music because I haven’t been keeping up very well lately and god damn there is some fucking great indie music out there right now

    My current obsessions from this festival- The latest releases from these bands:

    !!!
    Vampire Weekend
    Animal Collective
    Les Savy Fav
    Dizzee Rascal
    The Dodos
    Spiritualized
    Elf Power
    The Hold Steady
    Spoon
    Dinosaur Jr
    Titus Andronicus
    Boris
    Fuck Buttons

    I just made a playlist a couple days ago of ll the bands in this festival and fuck its a great playlist. Hugh and I have been playing this playlist nonstop since I made it

    [/ear bud]

  104. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    ps.. the festival if anyone is interested is The Pitchfork Music Festival

  105. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    http://www.pitchforkmusicfestival.com/

  106. ditto Says:

    Congrats, Andrea!!!

  107. EssBee Says:

    Vampire Weekend is tons of fun, huh TSH?

    Enjoy that!

  108. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Hey, thanks guys :)

    Yeah Vampire Weekend is awesome

    I am really impressed by !!! and Fuck Buttons.. great art creating music :)

  109. Vanamonde Says:

    Congratulations TSH.

    Dr Horrible won’t play on my Linux laptop, so can’t watch it till I boot up the desktop.

    Today’s colour is grey with a touch of damp.

    Off to see Wall-E today, looking forward to all that Pixar goodness.

  110. Vanamonde Says:

    Today’s useful tip:

    http://www.wikihow.com/Win-a-Street-Fight

  111. Trucker Overdrive Says:

    good show… lot’s of cool thoughts. I need to make more dead pan stuff.

  112. ditto Says:

    Stupid iTunes upgrades. Now when I listen to a podcast, they aren’t removed from my iPod when I sync.

  113. EssBee Says:

    ditto, doesn’t that piss you off? Every time I upgrade iTunes, something is fucked up w/ my podcasts. EssBee SMASH!

    Morning, Deadpan!

  114. Rhettro Says:

    Lots of crap to deal with at work today, well more than usual. =P *BFP*

  115. EssBee Says:

    Sounds kinda like my day, Rhettro. Stupid work crap!

    Hey, would one of you Arizona fellas go smack the Phoenix Evil, Inc. Sales Rep — oh, EXCUSE me, Account Executive — for me? She is absolutely killing me with her assholery.

  116. Rhettro Says:

    I would, but no car. The 4runner’s in the shop again. That thing’s a money pit.

  117. Vanamonde Says:

    Darn all this talk of itunes upgrades blues, I have a shiny new iPhone here and now have to install itunes for the first time.

    engage panic mode

    panic mode engaged

    aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh…

  118. Vanamonde Says:

    Yeah I’m a consumer whore.

  119. ditto Says:

    Sw33t!!!!! KOTOR MMO FTW!!!
    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6194664.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;2

  120. Vanamonde Says:

    Oh and really enjoyed Wall-E, I cared more what happened to those two computer generated characters in that movie than all of the rest of the summer blockbusters put together.

  121. ditto Says:

    I know what you mean, Van. It’s the best movie I’ve watched all year.

    I know it’s a Disney movie, but if they went for a slightly different, more tragic ending, it would definitely have been up for an Oscar.

  122. ditto Says:

    CP: (Can’t you) Trip like I do — Crystal Method & Filter

  123. EssBee Says:

    Van, my iTunes bitching aside, I absolutely love my iPod. I wouldn’t have it any other way. I hope you’ll report on how the iPhone treats you!

  124. Vanamonde Says:

    …and karma takes a bite out of my ass.

    Lulu.com sent me the wrong book, a great achievement from a Print on Demand publisher.

  125. ditto Says:

    Van: installing iTunes for the first time is pretty painless. It may take a while depending on how long your music collection. The bitching starts when you have to upgrade iTunes and Apple changes something. Grrrrr.

  126. EssBee Says:

    For example, once I upgraded iTunes, and ALL of my podcasts disappeared. That experience taught me a few things:

    1. I might have a little too much of a need for instant gratification.

    2. I am way too attached to these earbuds.

    3. Apple will fix the bugs that they create, but it is always too slow for my taste.

  127. EssBee Says:

    Oh, and:

    4. It’s always there somewhere even if you can’t see it in your library.

    5. Backup downloads!

  128. ditto Says:

    #4 isn’t necessarily true. For whatever reason, I have podcast files disappear mysteriously from time to time.

  129. ditto Says:

    Here’s your public idiocy example for the day:
    http://www.reason.com/blog/show/127616.html

  130. EssBee Says:

    ditto, that makes me feel so much better. I am a techtard, and am ALWAYS told that it’s there even though I cannot find it.

    Dear you bastard tech support people: I TOLD YOU SO.

  131. ditto Says:

    More examples of idiocy:

    “Tomatoes are again safe to eat, the Food and Drug Administration said Thursday”
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/07/17/fda.salmonella/index.html

    “The FDA announced it was lifting its ban on consumption of raw tomatoes, but hadn’t ruled them out as the source.”
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/07/15/salmonella.track/index.html

    Make. Up. Your. Fucking MINDS!

  132. Trucker Overdrive Says:

    Van… Wall-E is not real? :-(

  133. ditto Says:

    EssBee: I always have fun slapping tech support around. Being a software engineer, they can’t pull lame excuses with me. I *can* get away with saying, “put someone on that knows what they are talking about.” :)

  134. ditto Says:

    Of course, I only get that mean once they’ve pissed me off by repeatedly refusing to listen to me. I understand they probably get lots of people that claim to know what they are talking about, but good tech support should be skilled enough to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

  135. Vanamonde Says:

    So a quick shout out for helo, can you manually select MP3s on your HD in itunes to transfer to the iphone/ipod?

    I really want to keep my podcast feeds away from itunes if I can help it.

  136. Vanamonde Says:

    -o +p

  137. EssBee Says:

    Van,

    1. Open iTunes
    2. From the File menu, choose one of the following choices:
    * Mac
    o Add to Library
    * Windows
    o Add File to Library
    o Add Folder to Library
    3. Navigate to and select the file or folder that you want to add

  138. jackmangan Says:

    I used to do tech support. That job was basically constant *headdesk*

  139. Rhettro Says:

    You can Van, but it isn’t as simple as it should be.

    You use the “IMPORT” function from the pull down list, locate your MP3’s on the hard drive and “IMPORT” them. You files then show up in your music directory and you can drag them to an iPod/iPhone that is connected to your PC.

  140. Vanamonde Says:

    Thx Rhettro and Essbee.

    I think a cup of tea before playing with the new toy.

  141. Vanamonde Says:

    I may even drink a cup of tea, thinking of one is just not as refreshing.

  142. EssBee Says:

    You might dump some bourbon in that tea, Van.

  143. EssBee Says:

    And then pass it over this way.

  144. wndrwolf Says:

    Hell just give me the bourbon.

  145. EssBee Says:

    And then drink it.

  146. EssBee Says:

    *passing bourbon to wndr*

    And then we all should find a nice *BFP*

  147. EssBee Says:

    Unless, obviously, *helmetfaceplant* is more your cuppa.

  148. EssBee Says:

    Now I’m realizing that all you straight dudes are going to want both a *BFP* and a *HFP*. Okay, go ahead.

  149. wndrwolf Says:

    Thanks for the bourbon.

    Yeah I so need a *BFP*

  150. Vanamonde Says:

    http://tinyurl.com/6jcg3q

    Unearthed tapes by the woman who mixed the original Dr Who composition for the TV series in 1963.

    Just have a listen to the `dance’ track.

  151. EssBee Says:

    CP: Evolve – Ani DiFranco (Live at JazzFest ‘06)

    I was there!

    Van, that is awesome.

  152. EssBee Says:

    CP: Rocky Raccoon – The Beatles

  153. Ed from Texas Says:

    So, Van has scored his iPhone and now has been sucked into the legion of iTunes with the rest of us.

    I must confess, I haven’t upgraded my Itunes in a while since they never to anything to improve podcasting support. The thing I see about Apple is that, they add some feature, like podcasting, and then never touch it again, preferring to add some other new money sucking feature.

    I always make a backup copy of my Itunes database file before applying a new Itunes update.

  154. Ed from Texas Says:

    So, rather than going through and copying everything, I’ll just take a rare opportunity to point you to my blog post (which, I see I haven’t posted to for three months).

    Enjoy my nerdgasm, if you dare…

    http://onemanseyes.blogspot.com/2008/07/nerdgasm-gps.html

  155. EssBee Says:

    CP: Killer Queen – Queen

    (shuffle is being kind today so far *knocking on wood*)

  156. EssBee Says:

    True Blood website: http://www.trubeverage.com/

    Van said the pilot for this show sucks (in a less vulgar manner, obviously), but I do love the books.

    CP: Burning Too – Fugazi

  157. Ed from Texas Says:

    CP: Watchmen trailer in 1080HD Quicktime from the movie site.

    Glorious

  158. EssBee Says:

    CP: The Ballad Of A Ladyman – Sleater-Kinney

  159. ditto Says:

    Jack: Sorry to hear that. I’ve done some support as well. Not a lot of fun.

  160. EssBee Says:

    One of my contract employees just told me that she had to take her dog to the dermatologist. The dog’s name is Ted D. Bear.

  161. jackmangan Says:

    And…. ok…. gradually getting caught up.

    “A New Name” by !!! (chk-chk-chk) is one of my favorite new tunes. I also kinda dig the Les Savy Fav tune I heard. Have fun at Pitchfork, Smarty Hotties.

    Thanks, Trucker!

    EssBee – are you suggesting a simultaneous *BFP* and *HFP*?

    Van, what kind of tea did you think up?

    I gotta see that Watchmen trailer.

  162. EssBee Says:

    Jack – obviously yes. Or subsequently. Really, whatever floats the ole boat.

    CP: Beat On The Brat – The Ramones

  163. Vanamonde Says:

    JS: Emperor of the North

    http://tinyurl.com/65req4

  164. Vanamonde Says:

    Oh and I can be vulgar Essbee, if I have time for a good run up…

  165. jackmangan Says:

    Van – that is a great movie. Love the baptism scene.

    Well OK, EssBee, if you insist :)

  166. ditto Says:

    Jack: The only song I’ve heard from !!! is “Must Be The Moon” which I really like.

  167. ditto Says:

    CP: Bad to the bone — George Thorogood

  168. jackmangan Says:

    and
    http://xkcd.com/448/

    and ok…. must de-frazzle brain….

  169. ditto Says:

    CP: Bad Motor Scooter — Montrose

  170. EssBee Says:

    CP: Farewell to summer – Ottmar Leibert

  171. ditto Says:

    Warning: If you download an mp3 that then launches IE asking you to install a codec, don’t.
    http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/07/18/145223.shtml

  172. Vanamonde Says:

    The one traumatic thing about seeing Wall-E was the trailer for High School Musical 3.

    The horror, the horror…

  173. EssBee Says:

    CP: Let’s Embrace – Joseph Arthur

  174. ditto Says:

    Van: It was “Meet Dave” for me. I’m glad I didn’t see your trailers!

  175. ditto Says:

    CP: Easy Livin’ — Uriah Heep

  176. EssBee Says:

    I have seen the trailer for The Mummy movie (#3?) so many times that I’m pretty sure I’ll never see that one.

  177. ditto Says:

    CP: Renegade — Styx

  178. EssBee Says:

    Anyone braving the crowds for The Dark Knight this weekend?

    CP: Trash-A-Go-Go – Funkadelic

  179. ditto Says:

    Going to try tomorrow afternoon.

  180. ditto Says:

    CP: Street of Dreams — Rainbow

  181. Vanamonde Says:

    Not out till next week in the UK, so I’ll check it out then.

    Mummy 3 looks pretty naff, might check it out for a laugh.

  182. ditto Says:

    Finished reading “The Name of the Wind” the other day. Excellent book.

  183. EssBee Says:

    I think I’ll wait until next weekend. I just hate the theater full of middle school boys! That’s what we had when we saw Hancock last week.

  184. Vanamonde Says:

    The August book for the book club I’m in is ‘The Yiddish Policemen’s Union’ by Michael Chabon. Going to see if I can get it on loan from the local library.

  185. ditto Says:

    Van: I’ve heard lots of good things about that book, though I haven’t read it yet. Next up for me is “Soon I will be Invincible” by Grossman.
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375424865/ref=cm_rdp_product_img

  186. ditto Says:

    CP: We’re and American Band — Grand Funk Railroad

  187. EssBee Says:

    I’ve also heard great things about the Chabon novel.

    I LOVED “Soon I Will Be Invincible”, absolutely. I caught that one as an audiobook, and loved the voice of the guy who read it.

  188. ditto Says:

    CP: Highway Song — Blackfoot

  189. EssBee Says:

    My next book is The Sandman #1: Preludes & Nocturns.

    I’m also having fun reading the Southern Vampire books by Charlaine Harris.

  190. jackmangan Says:

    CP: nothing.
    Forgot my stupid iPod at home today.

    I’d like to do Batman this weekend. Probably won’t.

  191. Rhettro Says:

    Hey Jack, wanna see Batman? LOL Better not, the wife would kill me. I’ll probably wait a couple weeks before seeing Batman. I’m probably 50/50 for seeing WALL E this weekend and 50/50 for Hellboy next.

  192. EssBee Says:

    CP: Very agitated Kentucky woman on the phone.

  193. Rhettro Says:

    I noticed that The Dark Knight has a 9.7 rating over at IMDB currently. I doubt it will stay at that level.

  194. Rhettro Says:

    http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=8699865

    How did I know it was going to be a man that did that?

  195. EssBee Says:

    Funny story, Rhettro! WTF.

    Tonight, Longmont’s very cool (for Longmont) ArtWalk

    http://www.artwalklongmont.org/

    Hopefully I can find some good beer while there. I finished my antibiotics Wednesday, so I think I’m safe to have an adult beverage now, don’t you?

  196. jackmangan Says:

    Go for it, EssBee.

    Hey…………… does anyone know anything about JRun? Did Adobe stop supporting that?

  197. Rhettro Says:

    I have no idea what Jrun is, but my google-fu says the last update Adobe released for it was in June of 2005. That would be abandonment in my book.

  198. ditto Says:

    I’d look into JBoss, Jack.

  199. jackmangan Says:

    Thanks guys. Sorry for the dayjob techgeeking.

    *BFP*

  200. Vanamonde Says:

    Ok test message from iPhone…

  201. Vanamonde Says:

    hahahahahahahaha

  202. ditto Says:

    This truly is a fucked up romance:
    http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/5862568.html

  203. jackmangan Says:

    Terrible rap song – but good edits:

    http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/2008/07/video-mashup-for-girl-talks-feed-the-animals#

  204. ditto Says:

    CP: Lost and Lazy — 54-40

    A great song from an under appreciated band.

  205. JohnBoze Says:

    I thought Girl Talk was a mashup artist to begin with???

  206. Leann Says:
  207. Vanamonde Says:

    Well I was going to ask about literal death or philosophical death.

    But since things appear to have vanished.

    That was a twisted story you linked to ditto.

  208. Ed from Texas Says:

    I must concur with Van’s assessment of ditto’s story :)

  209. Ed from Texas Says:

    I can’t believe that Jack posts his desire to go brokeback for Batman and no one runs with it. What has this community come to??????

  210. Ed from Texas Says:

    Oh, and Tee spilled the beans that we can expect to here an interview with himself and Pip Ballentine on a certain podcast that we all listen to in the near future.

    Jack, no softballs :)

  211. Ed from Texas Says:

    You know, in my work, I’ve spent a good bit of time both here, and at the BP refinery in Texas City that had the big explosion a couple of years ago.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5896374.html

    Scary stuff. I’ll be very interested in how this investigation turns out. In my experience, Lyondell has tended to be among the more safety conscious companies. I don’t know yet if anyone from the company I work for was on the project.

  212. Vanamonde Says:

    Tea and Chat?

    cough

  213. Vanamonde Says:

    Hopefully the DP interview won’t be two hours long.

    Ok iphone/ipod touch owners. This is my first smartphone and it’s taking me a while to get used to it. Oh and Safari has already crashed several times today, so I’ve been bloodied!

    Anyway, is there anyway to turn of the screen switching to landscape mode when playing a podcast or music track? makes it hard to hit pause without taking the phone out my pocket?

  214. Ed from Texas Says:

    Jeremy, I saw you posting on the Slice B5 story.

    Boot to the head!

    :)

  215. ditto Says:

    All 3 parts of Dr Horrible are out now. Tomorrow is the last day, you can watch it online.

  216. JohnBoze Says:

    I should watch those before things get too spoilerish around the net. Of course, I bought them on iTunes, so that helps the deadline thing.

  217. EssBee Says:

    Hi Deadpan!

    How’s everyone’s Saturday shaping up? I’ve been busy — already done with two loads of laundry, mowing the lawn, and sweeping up the patio. I also did dishes and pulled some weeds. Now, I can relax and maybe read or watch some TV. I got LOST Season 1 & 2 on DVD for my birthday recently — maybe that’s what I’ll do.

    Dr. Horrible rocks.

  218. Trucker Overdrive Says:

    I’m just happy to see Will Smith come out against Scientology.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=IdLwcXOTzy4&feature=related

  219. jackmangan Says:

    I received an e-mail from Pendragon Press — publishers ofthe pending Triquorum 3, which will feature a superlong story of mine entitled “Crash Day”. It’s still in the works. The editor is toying with format ideas, awaiting the contributing authors’ feedback, and will possibly have something ready within “the next month or so”.

  220. jackmangan Says:

    And Ed, I hadn’t even noticed my “funny” wording about Batman this weekend. . . . . . :) In that case, bring on Catwoman.

  221. EssBee Says:

    Congrats, Jack!

  222. jackmangan Says:

    Thanks, EssBee!

  223. ditto Says:

    Congrats, Jack!

    PS: The Dark Knight is awesome.

  224. Vanamonde Says:

    Congratulations Jack. Hopefully they will get Triquorum 3 out of the door as well.

    Just got back from seeing this bloke at a local folk club:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c0E6Wastx8

  225. Vanamonde Says:

    I’m tapping my foot in frustration till I can see the new Batman movie.

  226. Vanamonde Says:

    Of course Crash Day features in T3…doh!

    I’ll just go and hide in the corner.

  227. Vanamonde Says:

    CE: H-D Strawberry Cheesecake ice cream

    CW : BBC documentary (via iplayer) about the Roman Emperor Hadrian.

  228. ditto Says:

    I’m amazed anyone would bring their kids to this Batman film.

  229. EssBee Says:

    Can’t wait to see Dark Knight! I heard a bad review today, but ditto’s review just tells me that the reviewer has no taste.

    CW: Eureka Season Two, Disc 1

    Soon to be E: Double mushroom & pepperoni pizza and hot wings. It’s my secret for keeping this girlish figure.

    CD: Left Hand Brewery Sawtooth Ale.

    Got stung by a yellow jacket today. It was the last thing that little fucker ever did, I can tell you that much.

    Enjoy the evening!

  230. ditto Says:

    You know, if I hadn’t known Ledger was playing the Joker, I’d never guess. He’s riveting. Take Batman, remove his restraint and his morality, remove his sense of justice, remove his discipline, and it’s a short hop to becoming the Joker. That’s an undercurrent that plays throughout the whole movie. Nolan weaves a compelling story around Batman, the Joker, Dent, and Gordon that says a great deal about inner-character and Justice.

    This is an extremely dark movie that only happens to be about a comic book character.

  231. JohnBoze Says:

    I haven’t read this 140-page script yet, but apparently it is such a great version that those who enjoyed the Indy movie and those who hated it both agree this would have been better…

    http://tinyurl.com/58kb33

  232. ditto Says:

    The more I think about the Indy movie, the more I realize how bad it really was.

  233. jackmangan Says:

    Didn’t see it. Remind me though – - – I have a hilarious Indy IV story that I keep forgetting to share on Deadpan.

  234. jackmangan Says:

    I came by to post lyrics. This guy blew me off awhile back for a Deadpan interview (in spite of our shared last name). . . . but I won’t jump to any uncool assumptions. He may have gotten busy – or whatever. This is a great, great song.

    Dan Mangan – So Much For Everyone

    as much as i’d like to go
    to places i’ve never known,
    scared shitless to leave home,
    and i don’t want to go alone.
    i miss the rewarding gaze
    of a friend from my younger days,
    didn’t mind ‘bout my selfish ways,
    as he died i was miles away.
    i hope he remembers how,
    as i do when i look back now,
    though he’d bark at the slightest sound,
    would not bite for he knew not how.

    and sometimes it’s more than clear,
    when morning comes early here,
    and i know that the day is near,
    wasted days make for wasted years.
    now i’m vicious with appetite,
    sobering half a mind,
    dripping with stolen wine,
    awoken by something i dreamt.

    harboured by everything i have been witnessing.
    postcards and daydreaming
    get less embarrassing.
    after the day is done,
    i will be on the run -
    so much for everyone, so much for everyone.
    the showdown is endless here,
    under the burning sun.
    as eyes roll toward me now,
    i will drop my gun.

  235. EssBee Says:

    Feminist “reading” of Dr. Horrible (with spoilers) here:

    http://tinyurl.com/6crr82

    Don’t agree with everything she says, but found it interesting.

  236. EssBee Says:

    Here’s another feminist “reading” of Dr. Horrible, again with spoilers:

    http://tinyurl.com/5pdwof

    This one is smarter, IMO, than the first one I posted. While reading this one, I thought about Jacks’ question regarding female role models in TV and Film. I’ve thought a lot about that since then, and think that this blog post really adds to the conversation.

    Jack, would Buffy, or even Willow, be characters you’d want your daughter to watch and identify with? How about Zoe from Firefly?

    I’m a huge Joss fan, so don’t get me wrong. I’m not posting this to say that I didn’t like Dr. Horrible. I loved it. Joss is boss.

  237. EssBee Says:

    make that “Jack’s”

    Oh, and good early morning from Colorado, Deadpan!

  238. Vanamonde Says:

    Only real propeller heads need apply:

    http://www.pagetable.com/?p=32

  239. ditto Says:

    EssBee: There are good and bad points to both posts. Thanks for passing them on.

  240. Vanamonde Says:

    CW: Dr No.

  241. Vanamonde Says:

    Ursula Andress has put a shirt on…shame.

  242. Dubshack Says:

    I caught The Dark Knight early yesterday morning. I went in with a sense of skepticism given that the movie had so many positive reviews and they all seemed to be centered around Heath Ledger’s death. But after seeing it I think the true tragedy is that he DID die, because clearly this character was meant to be seen again in some sequel. And yet I can’t disagree with anything anyone has said about his performance… His portrayal of the Joker was just something I’ve never seen before. It was like a mix of the dude from Saw and Mathiew Lillard’s character in Scream… Only completely composed and yet off the hook at the same time.

    That said I felt the only performances lacking in the film came from Christian Bale and Morgan Freeman, which was surprising given these are two of the biggest actors in Hollywood. And yet it was ok because the nature of the story seemed to deviate around them… They were more ancillary to the overall story being told, in fact I felt this movie was only coincidentally a Batman film. And while I haven’t seen all of Gary Oldman’s work, I have seen a lot of it and I really think this movie might have been HIS finest performance.

    Beyond that I’m torn about the recasting of Rachel Dawes. I’m mostly pleased that Nolan chose early on not to include Katie Holmes in the sequel, as her inclusion in Batman Begins was the only taint on that film… However not including her robbed us of *spoiler!!* seeing Katie Holme’s fiery death. But besides that I think Maggie Gyllenhaal was able to take that character to an emotional place that Katie Holmes never could, and made her final scene all the more bitter sweet… And only made Aaron Eckert’s performance as Harvey Dent and his transformation into Two Face that more believable and visceral.

    All that said when you put the two films together they’re completely seamless I think, and I’m glad they went for the length they did because this movie is just full of so many glorious moments. And again I think the real tragedy in it all is that in the end Heath Ledger died, and for some reason people feel the need to attach this sentiment that The Joker was Ledger’s final performance in some meaningless need to praise the man, when the sentiment isn’t even factually true… He has one last movie coming out. The truth is, had Ledger not died, I believe his performance would still be praised, and people would still find this one of the most amazing movies to come out in a long time.

    And the fact that it was a Batman film seemed completely unnecessary. Which is weird, it’s kind of like praising a Star Trek film that came out and was so amazing, and yet didn’t include the Enterprise or even anyone wearing a Star Trek uniform. It’s like who cares that its about Batman, because it isn’t about Batman, its just a really good epic story about a lot of characters, arguable no heroes and some just flat out incredible villians. I don’t even know if thats ever been done before.

    So yeah. All in all I was impressed. I hope this doesn’t spoil the X-Files next weekend. I’d hate to see more tragedy at the box office.

  243. Scott from Kalamazoo Says:

    Back from camping out in the deep woods. I just love camping where the nearest human being is at least 50 yards away if not more. :)

    Thanks for the kudos on the “deadpan is the way”. Like Jack said, I think I left about 20 minutes worth on voice mail. Hope it all makes sense to some people and really hope it helps some people at least think about their lives and what is stressing them out and ticking them off.

    I am by no means perfectly happy but it’s all about life management really. And it all starts by stop doing shit for everyone else due to peer pressure or trying to “keep up with the Jones’”. Try to be happy with what you have an examine if you really *need* that expensive new thing and if will really make *you* happy, not someone else happy.

    Take care deadpan!

  244. Ed from Texas Says:

    Scott,

    I’ll say I generally agree, though, with one modification. I say it’s OK to want things (for, when it really comes down to it, the vast majority of things we have can’t really be classified as “needs”). But, I certainly agree that the want should be because you have a genuine desire of your own, rather a desire to project an image, or appear “hip”.

    In short, if you really want that $400 pair of shoes because you like them, that’s great. If you’re just buying them to impress me, fuggedaboudit.

  245. Ed from Texas Says:

    Finally got to watch Dr. Horrible this afternoon, since the free viewing time is running out. Definitely had the feel of the Buffy musical episode from so long ago.

    That is what Star Wars: Episode III should have been.

  246. Trucker Overdrive Says:

    Hey Dubshack,

    I completely agree with your review of Batman. I would add that I hope they do a rerecording of Batman’s lines. The voice he used was almost silly. Nobody would do a whisper gravel voice to talking to somebody in the other side of the room.

    Also Batman wouldn’t talk like he’s interrogating the subject if he talking to Commissioner Gordon. I do think they could do a better job with the dialogue before the DVD.

    Did anyone pick up a lack of an origin story for the Joker. I really enjoy the hyper realism they seem to want to use these Batman films. Even having Batman go to China.

    After Tim Burton turned the most normal villain into a circus freak this new take on the franchise is very refreshing. The bad guy I wanna see the most is Scarface. If anybody would understand how to do that character it would be him.

    Also, kick ass truck driving chase scene..

  247. ditto Says:

    Apparently a tornado just missed my in-laws place last night. Yikes!

  248. ditto Says:

    Go back and watch Batman Begins. He did the same thing then and no one complained. I’ve got no problems with the “distorted” voice.

    I also liked the lack of an origin story for the Joker. It was more realistic.

  249. jackmangan Says:

    La la la la la la la la la la not listening to your Batman discussion. . . . . I’d hoped to see it today. But I guess not.

  250. ditto Says:

    FBP! Sorry, Jack!

  251. Vanamonde Says:

    It’s the journey thats important and not the destination.

    I’s why spoilers don’t bother me.

  252. Vanamonde Says:

    +t

  253. Ed from Texas Says:

    I’ve already come across a few spoilers, myself. But, that the risk of being plugged in. The wife and I have a date night planned for next Friday and we’ll be catching in then.

  254. Ed from Texas Says:

    I read the feminist review pages of Dr. Horrible posted earlier. While I would agree it’s not likely the kind of thing I’d show off to my daughter now, I don’t think that the pendulum has to swing so far that every potrayal of a woman character must necessarily be strong. The story is about one man’s fall and it uses obviously exaggerated stereotypes to tell the story.

    I do think it’s the kind of thing I’d show my daughter when she’s a little older for a “hey, watch out for these guys” lesson.

  255. EssBee Says:

    Morning, Deadpan!

    How did Monday roll back around so quickly?

    Haven’t seen Dark Knight yet. Hope to catch it next weekend.

  256. wndrwolf Says:

    Damn it – it is Monday…
    Where the hell did I put that Bourbon???

  257. ditto Says:

    Pass it around wndr, pass it around.
    *headdesk*

  258. wndrwolf Says:

    I have to find it first….

  259. ditto Says:

    Sooooooo true:
    “Sure, I just watched a PG-13 movie in which I was seriously worried I was about to witness a man with half his face-flesh burned off put a bullet in an 8-year-old boy’s skull in front of his crying, screaming family, but thanks to the good people at the MPAA, I had absolutely no fear of any nude female nipples sneaking into the scene. Thank you so much, MPAA. Because of you and your stalwart vigilance on behalf of our nation’s many unspoilt young minds, I can rest assured whenever children go to see crack-y, psychotic clowns stick knives in people’s mouths, those clowns will never, under any circumstances, dare to use the word “fuck.” I doff my hat to you all.”
    http://essrose.livejournal.com/44657.html?style=mine

  260. ditto Says:

    CRAP! I didn’t mean to add a spoiler to that quote!!!

    SPOILERS ABOVE!!!!!

    SORRY!

  261. ditto Says:

    My brain was not fully engaged when I hit submit. :(

  262. EssBee Says:

    I forgive you, ditto. That is an awesome quote.

  263. Rhettro Says:

    Manic Mehday. =P

    If were in an economic recession, you wouldn’t be able to tell by the size of the crowds at the Chandler Fashion Mall last Saturday. Insane.

  264. ditto Says:

    CP: Hot Pink, Distorted — 50 Foot Wave

  265. Vanamonde Says:

    However bad things get, there will be a minority that do well out of the chaos.

  266. ditto Says:

    CP: Out of Exile — Audioslave

  267. Rhettro Says:

    And they all live in Chandler. LOL

  268. EssBee Says:

    Rhettro, I think at least a few of them live in Boulder too.

    I got a few new books in the mail last week:

    Astonishing X-Men collection #4, which is Whedon’s last

    Hellboy collection #1

    I’m excited to read both, but they have to get in the queue.

  269. wndrwolf Says:

    Damn it
    Who spilled the bourbon?

    I know I didn’t drink all of it….

    I don’t think so anyway…

    Crap I don’t remember

  270. EssBee Says:

    Earbuds

    If you haven’t heard of The Brian Jonestown Massacre, check them out:

    http://www.myspace.com/brianjonestownmassacre

    These guys remind me of The Velvet Underground. See what you think.

  271. ditto Says:

    CP: Into The Dark — Melissa Etheridge

  272. wndrwolf Says:

    CP – Second Shift s02e01

  273. Vanamonde Says:

    Ah second shift, got to episode 5 of the first series and then lost interest.

    JATD: the dishes after a meal of egg and chips.

  274. Vanamonde Says:

    fried egg that is and not just the raw eggs.

    Too much salmonella around for that.

  275. EssBee Says:

    JATD!

  276. EssBee Says:

    Further proof that I do, in fact, work at Evil, Inc.:

    My team and I just spent 45 minutes sitting outside because there is an unidentifiable chemical smell come from the elevator shaft. No fire, say the 6 men who came on the red fire truck, but they do think that something smells like it is burning.

    Oh, and it’s around 100 degrees out there.

  277. jackmangan Says:

    I spotted this book in Barnes & Noble’s on Barnes & Noble’s discount shelves, immediately thought of EssBee:

    http://tinyurl.com/66hkwp

  278. ditto Says:

    Best. Quote. EVAR!

    “Look at me. I mean, when I’m naked, I look like a bald chicken. How did I get to be a scary bad guy?” — Gary Olman

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/21/film.garyoldman.ap/index.html

  279. EssBee Says:

    That is hilarious, Jack.

    The truth is that corporate culture is ripe for the picking. There are some relatively major legal issues happening at my version of Evil, Inc. that I’d love to tell you guys about, but I’d so get canned. I could write quite a story!

    That is a great article, ditto.

  280. Vanamonde Says:

    Saw a pile of Scott Sigler Infections books at Waterstones at the weekend. Don’t know how well he is selling retail, but amazing to see an author who podcasts his book on the shelves.

  281. EssBee Says:

    CP: Flight of the Bumblebee – Jennifer Batten

  282. ditto Says:

    Not giving a…
    http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/20/i-just-dont-care-nsfw-version/

    NSFW

  283. EssBee Says:

    Have to check that one at home!

    CP: As Good As You’ve Been To This World – Janis Joplin

  284. ditto Says:

    CP: Rat is Dead (Rage) — Cansei de Ser Sexy
    http://www.spin.com/articles/css

  285. Vanamonde Says:

    Well the holiday is over, back to the grind.

  286. Rhettro Says:

    If I had a pillow, I think I would take a nap under my desk here at work. I wonder if anyone would notice?

  287. jackmangan Says:

    Jennifer Batten!

    I’ll also check out your neatorama link at home, ditto. . . .

    And wow, what a quiet Deadpan Monday. Makes me wonder. . . . .

    Welcome back to the grind, Van.

  288. JohnBoze Says:

    Storm’s a-brewin’, is that what you’re thinking, Jack?

  289. ditto Says:

    CP: Low is a height — Great Northern

  290. Vanamonde Says:

    CW: BBC News Breakfast

    They caught Karadzic, about bloody time.

  291. Trucker Overdrive Says:

    neet car… But it’s glued. Could I get ine that’s welded?

    http://tinyurl.com/3o3bvq

  292. WNDRWolf aka The Master of Patience Says:

    Jack – Are you what are you wondering about?

  293. Dubshack Says:

    So let me get this straight, the emissions on this thing are so clean and cool they’re actually used as part of the air conditioning system?

    “Oh my gosh Bob, what is that total lack of smell coming from the air conditioner?”
    “Why thats the exhaust fumes coming from my clean, energy efficient compressed air vehicle!”

    Only in India can they take the idea of a clean air vehicle and design something based entirely on a fart.

  294. ditto Says:

    A fart is methane. The car runs on compressed *air*. Since the car doesn’t burn anything, I find it amusing they would talk about emissions. It’s emissions will be as polluted as the air you put into the compressed air tank.

  295. EssBee Says:

    Morning, Wndr, Dub, & ditto!

  296. ditto Says:

    Morning!

    *its not it’s

  297. WNDRWolf aka The Master of Patience Says:

    Morning, EssBee.

    *lamenting my empty bottle*

  298. EssBee Says:

    Guys, I’m having a kind of rough and shocking morning today. My brother is turning out to be a complete nutter w/ the religious fundamentalism. I have no idea how to deal. Opinion question:

    Should I work on fixing a relationship with him just because we are siblings? I have no desire to talk to the guy, but there’s still that social (or is it more than social?) thing that makes me think that I should because we have the same parents.

  299. WNDRWolf aka The Master of Patience Says:

    I would maintain at least a cordial relation. If not just to keep the peace at family gatherings. (Wow look at the insight)

  300. EssBee Says:

    300!

  301. EssBee Says:

    Thanks, WNDR. You’re probably right, but I’m more inclined (at least today) to just skip the family gatherings that he decides he’s able to attend. Those, BTW, are very few and far between.

  302. Rhettro Says:

    Half my inlaws are off the deep end so I feel your pain. I agree with Wolf, keep things cordial.

    When dealing with people with deeply held religious convictions, that want you to share in them I always try to keep a few things in mind.

    The first is someone’s degree of conviction does not in anyway reflect the validity of there convictions. I’ve meet a lot of people who wanted to convert me to the “true” path, Mormons, Catholics, Jehova Witnesses, Baptists and Muslims. All these people believed without a shred of doubt that they were following God’s chosen path. Yet if you put all these people in a room, every last one of them would think the others were “wrong.” If God has spoken to you directly, who am I to tell you you are on the wrong path. But it means next to nothing to me personally, because I wasn’t the recepient. What I think happens to a lot of people is instead of following their heart, they co-opt someone else’s faith, someone with more conviction than they have, and not because they believe it, but because they don’t want to fall out of favor with that person. That isn’t faith, that’s coersion.

    Sorry for rambling. LOL Anyway, when talking to people like this I basically acknowledge that they have my best interest at heart, but I don’t believe as they do. Their faith may be impressive, but their devotion isn’t evidence of the “truthfulness” of their path, at least not when it concerns other people. And finally let them know that you follow your own heart and if the path is true, you will know it. That’s how I handle my inlaws and it keeps conversations about such matters fairly short.

  303. EssBee Says:

    Words of wisdom, Rhettro and WNDR!

  304. Rhettro Says:

    It would have been a lot more impressive if I had proof read that a little more before hitting submit. LOL

  305. Vanamonde Says:

    As somebody who had to suffer catholic school, my tolerance to being preached at by religious fanatics is low.

    I suspect a lot of religious people just follow what they were indoctrinated with as children.

    Never trust anybody who thinks god is responsible for all the good things in life and none of the bad things….

  306. Vanamonde Says:

    Unless they are pointing a gun at me, then I’m all ears.

  307. Vanamonde Says:

    Just in case you were under the impression I was brave and noble defender of atheism.

  308. Rhettro Says:

    LOL

  309. EssBee Says:

    Van, I agree with you. As a gay person, I’m often preached at by the nuttier people in my vicinity, but my brother is a special case. We were raised as Eastern Orthodox, but he has gone full Fundie. I don’t speak that language, and really don’t fit into his lens anyway.

    Sorry to vent earlier — I have brought a pretty serious tone to the Pan this morning.

    CP: Yesterday’s Democracy Now!

    /drama

  310. Ed from Texas Says:

    It’s known around here that I’m a pretty devout Catholic myself. The truest lesson that I’ve learned and try to live by is the recognition that everyone, whatever their faith or lack thereof, is a reflection of the divine creation. As such, all are entitled to be treated with basic respect and human dignity. I fear this fundamental lesson has been lost on too many who call themselves Christian and I find myself sympathetic to the bumper sticker prayer “Lord, save me from your followers.”

    Coercion, whether to religious belief, patriotism, or even scientific knowledge, is no way to build something that will last. Resentment will eventually destroy it.

  311. Rhettro Says:

    Ed, well put.

  312. EssBee Says:

    Ed, replace your “devout Catholic” with my “secular humanist” and your “reflection of the divine creation” with my “a human being just like I am” and we are in complete agreement there.

    Tolerance is something that way too many of us have just plain forgotten to look up in the dictionary. If I think that someone is being ugly toward another person, I can think that they’re doing so without telling them that they deserve to get voted off the planet because I don’t personally chose to be ugly toward others.

  313. EssBee Says:

    Unless they are pointing a gun at Van.

  314. jackmangan Says:

    I will jump in as Van’s human shield.
    To tackle the other side of the original question, I think that if someone treats you badly enough, then you need to avoid them. Just because they’re family, that doesn’t give them a free pass. There’s no excuse for being hurtful to anyone.
    However, if he’s just annoying, then I’d encourage tolerance, if only to keep peace for those rare get-togethers.

  315. WNDRWolf aka The Master of Patience Says:

    Basking in the glow of the wisdom of the Mangan!

  316. WNDRWolf aka The Master of Patience Says:

    Where are my sunglasses it is awfully bright in here…

  317. EssBee Says:

    [drama]

    Dear Diary:

    The situation with my stupid brother does not include him being mean to me, per se. He is being a dick toward our parents, which I just simply cannot condone. He doesn’t talk to me at all, which suits me. I continue to wonder whether or not I owe the universe or whatever some attempt at keeping a cordial relationship with him (even if at this point all I could muster would be “kiss my ass . . . please”) or not. I am leaning toward a big fat no at this point. I have made a valiant effort toward this, IMO. I have to conclude, after the latest nutso email he sent to my parents, that he is just not worthy.

    Also, Jack, Ed, Rhettro, WNDRWolf, and Van are dreamy.

    Love, EssBee

    [/drama}

  318. EssBee Says:

    -}

    +]

  319. WNDRWolf aka The Master of Patience Says:

    [drama]

    I don’t have opposable thumbs!!!

    [/drama]

  320. EssBee Says:

    CP: The Way – Me’Shell Ndegeocello

  321. EssBee Says:

    CP: Oh Oh I Love Her So – The Ramones

  322. EssBee Says:

    CP: Crazyhorse Mongoose – Galactic

  323. jackmangan Says:

    CP: The Heretic (The Lost Child) – W.A.S.P.

    (don’t laugh, it’s actually a good tune)

    I think Thievery Corporation is next on the playlist.

  324. EssBee Says:

    CP: Think Afrika – Fela Kuti

  325. wndrwolf Says:

    Damn it !

    I think I got the strings on my spaceships all tangled!

  326. Vanamonde Says:

    CW: The Making Of Captain Cook

  327. Vanamonde Says:

    Don’t cut the strings wolf, you’ll go all floppy…

  328. wndrwolf Says:

    Damn …

    Everyone hates a floppy wolf…

  329. Dubshack Says:

    Van- Actually a recent study showed that the vast majority of American’s today have strayed from the religious teachings of their childhood. And the number one religion people left was the Jehovah’s Witnesses, which I found particularly amusing being that I fell into that same category.

    Essbee- If your brother is disrespecting his parents than he is committing the worst form of hypocracy to his own faith. From experience I say let him be. He will either come to understand his mistakes and come to you for forgiveness or continue to commit them, in which case its best to sever the relationship. Better to loose an arm than let the disease spread to the brain.

    This from an ordained minister, Reverend Dubshack.

  330. EssBee Says:

    CP: More Than This – The Cure

  331. wndrwolf Says:

    EssBee If More than this is the cure – What is the disease?

  332. EssBee Says:

    The GOONER, obviously

  333. EssBee Says:

    CP: Little Liza Jane – Dr. John

  334. Vanamonde Says:

    Gurning:

    http://tinyurl.com/6dk3s4

  335. EssBee Says:

    That’s . . . uh . . . interesting.

  336. EssBee Says:

    CP: Minneapolis – Lucinda Williams

    Yay, JohnBoze

  337. Vanamonde Says:

    Every nation has it’s obscure contests.

  338. EssBee Says:

    True, Van. I’ve heard of fruitcake tosses around these parts.

    CP: Fade Away – Mary J. Blige

  339. Vanamonde Says:

    Well I’m gnackered, night pan.

    Biggest disappointment of the 3G iPhone is battery life.

  340. EssBee Says:

    Nighty nite, Van.

    Charge that phone, yo.

  341. EssBee Says:

    I know Jack is a big Justin Timberlake fan, so decided to share this. Enjoy!

    http://tinyurl.com/6fd2br

  342. jackmangan Says:

    [secretly harboring a crush] That deuchebag hosted the ESPYs? ugh. [/secretly harboring a crush]

  343. Rhettro Says:

    You know if you search for “dick in a box” on Google you get links to Mr. Timberlake. Not sure why.

    Oh repairs on the 4runner are bleeding me dry. Does $700 sound like a lot of money to make a blinky light go away on the dash board? I must have offended the SRV gods. I suppose I should have sacraficed a few Priuses to them to keep me in their good graces.

  344. Rhettro Says:

    SUV even.

  345. Ed from Texas Says:

    Seems like a bit of black electrical tape over that blinky light would make it go away a lot cheaper.

  346. Rhettro Says:

    That’s what I’m thinkin’.

  347. jackmangan Says:

    http://tinyurl.com/2p82v2

  348. Vanamonde Says:

    Very apt.

    A warm and muggy day here…I hate high humidity levels.

    JATE: Some toast.

  349. Vanamonde Says:

    Can’t have crumbs getting in the keyboard.

  350. Vanamonde Says:

    Playing on the tv:

    The Road to Rio

  351. JohnBoze Says:

    http://tinyurl.com/5kqnq8

    Well at the above I downloaded the new “Girl Tlak” album for $0.00, much like I did the Radiohead album a couple months back. I am hoping to like it more than the Radiohead, which I listened to in my car, and thought should come with a waning label against doing so as I was bored to tears…

  352. ditto Says:

    I enjoyed the RH album, but not as much as others. How’s the GT album?

  353. Dubshack Says:

    este perro no parará el humping de mi pierna

  354. Vanamonde Says:

    You have to watch those camels.

  355. EssBee Says:

    Damn dog . . .

    Thanks for the tip, JohnBoze — I got some music this morning! I love Radiohead, tho.

    Morning, Deadpan.

  356. ditto Says:

    CP: Free Money — Patti Smith

  357. Rhettro Says:

    Watch out for those parrots humping your leg Dub.

  358. ditto Says:

    Rush failing at Rock Band
    http://kotaku.com/5027981/watch-rush-fail-at-rock-band

  359. Rhettro Says:

    I think I could learn to play the Buckethead song for real before I could master Buckethead on GH. LOL

  360. ditto Says:

    Yeah.

  361. ditto Says:

    CP: Animate — Rush

  362. Vanamonde Says:

    Reminds me of a famous F1 driver doing rubbish at hard driving arcade machine (the games was developed from a oh so serious car simulator).

    You are in the library, what is the first book you see when you look up?

    Lonely Werewolf Girl by Martin Millar.

  363. ditto Says:

    CP: Cold Fire — Rush

  364. EssBee Says:

    Ahh. Just back from seeing my chiropractor. One of my favorite things to do each month.

  365. EssBee Says:

    On first listen (while working, so not paying full attention) Girl Talk ain’t bad.

  366. EssBee Says:

    CP: Clampdown – Indigo Girls

  367. EssBee Says:

    And, no, that was not a lesbian joke.

  368. Vanamonde Says:

    I was thinking of metalwork myself.

  369. EssBee Says:

    Ha! Just me, then.

  370. Vanamonde Says:

    CW: Futurama

    The one where Bender dumps the ship’s computer.

  371. EssBee Says:

    Anybody want to play guess the novel by quick plot description?

    Primarily the narrative of Tyrone Slothrop, a GI in London during the Second World War who has the ability to predict imminent German bombing trajectories by erection, ___ deals tangentially with hundreds of other important characters, with Russians, Germans, Africans, and Central Asians, and with settings such as Colonial America, turn-of-the-century Africa, and the United States of the early seventies before it dispatches Slothrop entirely, casting his fragmentary consciousness around the remainder of the book. (He fails to appear recognizably in the last fifty pages.)

  372. ditto Says:

    CP: Almost Always — Ron Sexsmith

  373. EssBee Says:

    CP: Can’t Stop – Ozomatli

  374. EssBee Says:

    CP: A Thousand Tiny Pieces – The Be Good Tanyas

  375. ditto Says:

    Nope, don’t recognize it, EssBee.

  376. ditto Says:

    CP: Ice — Sarah McLachlan

  377. ditto Says:

    CP: Believer — Chantal Kreviazuk

  378. EssBee Says:

    It’s Gravity’s Rainbow, one of my all time favorites.

    CP: Satisfy – Me’Shell Ndegeocello

  379. Vanamonde Says:

    Well I’ve seen the Be Good Tanyas twice in concert. They looked a bit stoned at the second one though.

    CP: Raven’blues

  380. ditto Says:

    CP: Sad to see the season go — Cowboy Junkies

  381. EssBee Says:

    I love the Tanyas, stoned or no.

    CP: Toys R Us – The Greyboy Allstars

  382. ditto Says:

    EssBee: I figured it out by doing a Google search on the name. I haven’t read the book yet. As an engineer, my background in literature is rather weak.

  383. EssBee Says:

    ditto: I LOVE Cowboy Junkies.

    My MA is in American Lit, so I’ve read a lot of non-genre stuff. I couldn’t calculate my way out of a box, though!

    I would recommend Gravity’s Rainbow, but it’s dense. It’s not a linear story, and pretty freaky. Maybe just read about it rather than reading the book itself!

    I posted the paragraph above from a pretty funny book review. The writer obviously hated the novel and it tickled me.

  384. Vanamonde Says:

    To be fair there could have looked stoned at the first one, but I sitting too far back to notice.

  385. Vanamonde Says:

    I’m not tempted to read the book after reading the wiki entry.

  386. jackmangan Says:

    I attempted Gravity’s Rainbow as a teenager, but my head exploded.
    I should give it another attempt one of these days.
    I did get through Vineland, but from what I recall, it was pretty unremarkable.

  387. ditto Says:

    EssBee: I read Umberto Eco for fun. I don’t know how that compares to Pynchon. Besides, I like a challenge. :)

  388. Vanamonde Says:

    This one deserves a repost after reading that wiki entry.

    Wernher Von Braun by Tom lehrer

    Gather round while I sing you of Wernher von Braun
    A man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience
    Call him a Nazi, he won’t even frown
    “Ha, Nazi schmazi,” says Wernher von Braun

    Don’t say that he’s hypocritical
    Say rather that he’s apolitical
    “Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down
    That’s not my department,” says Wernher von Braun

    Some have harsh words for this man of renown
    But some think our attitude should be one of gratitude
    Like the widows and cripples in old London town
    Who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun

    You too may be a big hero
    Once you’ve learned to count backwards to zero
    “In German oder English I know how to count down
    Und I’m learning Chinese,” says Wernher von Braun

  389. EssBee Says:

    I love Pynchon for the same reasons I love Dick. (I originally had PK in that sentence, but removed it to invite lewd jokes. Go ahead, now.) Both authors are saying that the human race has invented itself right out of existence. I love that dark, dreadful shit.

  390. ditto Says:

    CP: Boy inside the man — Tom Cochrane

  391. EssBee Says:

    CP: Stay A Little Longer – Willie Nelson

  392. EssBee Says:

    CP: Sweet Thing – Van Morrison

  393. Vanamonde Says:

    Well best not to take these things to literally. After all it’s impossible to know if the human has invented itself out of existence if you are human cos you are still around.

    cough

  394. Vanamonde Says:

    +race

  395. EssBee Says:

    CP: Black Star – Radiohead

  396. EssBee Says:

    Exactly! Just like Deckard!

  397. Vanamonde Says:

    However if you are just an extension of the will of a supercomputer from the future, coming to record how humanity fluffed it…well all bets are off.

  398. Vanamonde Says:

    Deckard is HUMAN, HUMAN I tell ya!

    Oh wait, I had better pop some lithium…

  399. EssBee Says:

    ;)

  400. EssBee Says:

    and, 400

  401. Vanamonde Says:

    Night Pan.

    Still wrestling with iTunes…sigh.

  402. JohnBoze Says:

    Well, the Girl Talk will probably need a couple more listens, but it at least gets in the door with novelty value.

    There is some risk it will fall under the same novelty category as a project from a bit further back called “Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers,” although this shows much better editing chops.

    I wouldn’t hesitate putting this on at a loud party, but I’ll need at least two more listens before deciding if it has staying power…

  403. Vanamonde Says:

    I salute anybody with enough restraint to eat 1/16 of a Black Forest Gateau..

  404. jackmangan Says:

    That kinda restraint might require restraints.
    So JB, Girl Talk is all authorized mashups?

    CP: Dry the Rain – The Beta Band

  405. EssBee Says:

    AT:

    Eat – carnitas con tortillas de maiz, arroz de mexicano, y calabacitas.

    Watch – either more Eureka on DVD (almost caught up!) or The Closer on DVR

    Have a lovely night, gents.

    Deadpan is the way.

  406. Trucker Overdrive Says:

    need shower need sleep need edit my work

  407. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    hhhhhhhhhhhiiiiii pan

  408. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    what was Jack saying about restraints over there??

    Hugh sez: restraints?? w00t!

    {sexy voice} are those ankle restraints or are you just happy to see me? [/sexy voice]

    Hugh sez: *swooon*

  409. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    ok lemme see here we have to play with the others…

    currently…

    playing: The Presets – Aeons
    eating: we just ate grilled shrimp and veggies. Weather has been so fantastic here we did some grilling and chilling today
    drinking: finishing the bottle of Chardonnay from dinner
    doing: commenting on deadpan
    about to be doing: play by play

  410. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    you know everytime we do a play by play and I check out my other podcasts, we always find a new sex in fun that sounds really interesting.

    This time its: SiF #132 How to bring Non-Vanilla Sex into your Life

  411. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Deadpan 96 Spoiler Alert!!!

  412. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    creepy intro!

  413. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    this is the way the world is

  414. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Dear wordpress

    I’ll show you comments too quickly you mother fucker!

    breast
    dre and hugh

  415. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Trucker Overdrive

    liked the prologue more than the movie

    The Rock ruins the movie

  416. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Frank the bunny!!

  417. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    “Magnum used condom”

    Hugh sez: wow, so far I’m not being sold on this movie.

    Eraserhead!!!!

    Hugh sez: we love Eraserhead!!

  418. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    metric fuck ton load gallon

    30 minutes from Dubshack!?!?!?!??!??!??!??

    Hugh sez: How long is this episode?

    47:01

    hugh sez: so its 30 minutes of Dubshack and 17:01 of everyone else?

    mehops not.. no offense Dubshack :)

  419. EssBee Says:

    TSH! What up?

  420. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Greasy break in the middle

    non Southland content

    ahhhh.. not all 30 minutes are in this

    Southland Tales Spoiler Alert

  421. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Hey EssBee :)

    How are things down in your side of the country?

  422. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    slanderpalooza

    oooo.. the following podcasters are sexually attracted to small furry woodland animals! Sicko Perverts!!!

    Hugh sez: well I’m attracted to your beaver

    LOL. YOur a sicko pervert too

    Hugh sez: Thanks :)

  423. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    LOL

    cute

    Dubshack loves wee animals

    Amy Bowen

    She liked Repo Man better!

    Hugh sez: I love Amy Bowen

    Weloves Repo Man

    Southland Tales by Amy Bowen: Over the top, gory and no plot line

  424. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Venice Beach is scary

    No fan fiction

  425. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Inconceivable!!

    Vote 2 for no storyline

    lets keep track for the kids at home:

    Southland Tales: 0
    Lacking storyline: 2

  426. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Ed From Texas *swooooon*

    Hugh sez: Ed is threatening to kill Dubshack.. thats awesome. Way to go Dubshack!

  427. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Southland Tales: 0
    Lacking Storyline: 3

  428. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    The Rock is going to lay a smack down on our candy asses

    Hugh sez: My ass is not a candy ass. Brig it Rock. I will break you.

    *swoooon*

  429. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    ooo he got an interview with Justin Timberlake

    Hugh sez: Ouch Jack

    LOL.. Jack looooooves Justin Tinberlake

    He hung up on you!!

    Hugh sez: I’ll break his candy ass!!!

  430. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    j0e

    beyond the movie…

  431. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    *deadpan pause*

    Hugh’s mama on the phone :)

  432. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    I shall check email while I wait

    and a video for your viewing pleasure:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPB9kx6j3TY

    dude.. hold the camera steady. Lay off the coke.

  433. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    shit man…

    Look at this story that was emailed to Hugh and i from his sister today:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080723/ap_on_he_me/cell_phone_warning

  434. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Dear wordpress

    boo on you

    breast dre

  435. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    I was trying to post a story Hugh’s sister emailed to us about a link between cell phone usage and brain tumors

  436. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Hugh is still talking on the phone, this might be a while…

  437. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    “By all means, if a person feels compelled that they should take precautions in reducing the amount of electromagnetic radio waves through their bodies, by all means they should do so,” said Dan Catena, a spokesman for the American Cancer Society. “But at the same time, we have to remember there’s no conclusive evidence that links cell phones to cancer, whether it’s brain tumors or other forms of cancer.”

    So its like, cell phones give off these electromagnetic waves and they can’t confirm that they CAUSE cancer, but at the same time they can’t tell you oh yeah.. its perfectly safe!

    nice.

  438. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    LOL!!!

    Speaking from his cell phone, the professor of electrical and computer engineering at the University of Colorado at Boulder said he takes no special precautions in his own phone use. And he offered no specific advice to people worried about the matter.

    “Speaking from his cell phone” LOL.. oh that amused me

  439. ditto Says:

    Hey, TSH!!!

    Well, considering we are constantly surrounded by all sorts of electromagnetic fields, it’s hard to believe that one more (i.e. a cell phone) will make any sort of difference.

  440. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    back to the pan…

  441. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    ditto!!! *swooon* :)

    Are we? Oh see.. so then maybe they are just trying to start shit cause they hate cell phones.. who the fuck knows. I certainly don’t. I just take pretty pictures and make bad pictures look perfect via photoshop. I dont know shit about no electromagnetic waves or whatever.

  442. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    justa j0e continues….

  443. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    hmmm j0e liked Timberlake…

    sez it was a musical

  444. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    size DOES matter

  445. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    *raises hand*

    I have a stick up my ass!!

    Hugh sez: Thats no stick baby

    *swooon*

    Hugh sez: wait, I just insulted myself. I ain’t no stick. You BETTER know if it was me

    LOL
    Helloooooo Hughs ego!

    Hugh sez: Yep, just Dre, me and my ego enjoying a quiet Wednesday night at home

  446. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    j0e giving the history of Southland Tales

    Phone call again!!

    *Deadpan paused*

  447. The Smarty Hotties® Says:

    Well pan
    Looks like we might call it a night

    We tried
    we failed
    we sorry

    we’ll try again next time :)

    Watch out from those electro-wave thingys all over the place

  448. JohnBoze Says:

    Aww, too bad, TSH, catch you next time!

    In answer to Jack’s question, no. It is all very unauthorized.

  449. Ed from Texas Says:

    Do you know what arrived in my mail today? And, by mail, I mean that physical dispatch that comes via the U.S. Postal Service.

    Do you know what arrived in my mail today? Probably six months after I put it at the top of my queue?

    That’s right…..Eraserhead has finally arrived.

  450. ditto Says:

    lol

  451. jackmangan Says:

    Eraserhead!

    I have Charlie (the Beer Guy)’s copy here too, Ed. I guess we could do a minipaloozahead….. but then others would be left out.

  452. jackmangan Says:

    And I think we’re gonna call the GJB count at 451 this week.

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