Original title intended to be “Except I’m Not”, but then I recalled the apostrophe strangeness in the episode names, and went with “Relax” instead.
Fascinating Show Notes.
Jack Mangans Deadpan #169: Relax
Is Jack Mangan really a muppet?
Maybe Jack is the lost beatle?
Maybe he’s a muppet beetle? That likes madlibs?
promo – The Weird Show (http://www.theweirdshow.com/)
Questors of Effpiem – recorded live at the Deadpan mmmmmeetup
Justa J0e with the contents of his Memorial Day Golf Post Beach
Cj Reviews Sex and the City 2
Justa J0e with thoughts from the beach
Cj with a dumbass memory
Jack – Destroyer of hard drives.
Jack thanks the Deadpan for being a friend
Greasy Comments
Vanamonde (first of the week)
Cj
Lejon
Vanamonde
Johnny Null
ditto
The Energizer Bunny
Nomad Scry
LoPan
Justa J0e with the last thoughts from the beach
Payment still due on Hockey Playoffs. Wait a minute… Wonder Wolf still owes from the Olympics. All yous louses, pay up!
Good Luck Jack!
60 Lines part two and three coming up.
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Closing music … “Exeunt”
Not a soul.
What?! Who’s that?
Is someone here?
Just us chickens…
*whips around*
I feel like I’m surrounded.
*cluck*
*grabs egg beater*
Well, if there are chickens here, it’s time to break some eggs.
I am very dressed-up, headed in to a sales meeting. Cover me!
Egg away!
CP: Mind is Ugly — War Tapes
Shields Up!
Pants down!
By the pin-feathers on me bum,
something Chicken this way comes…
CP: Percussion Gun — White Rabbits
Looks like this egg beater will come in use.
*hooks up to 500hp motor*
wwwwhhhhhhhhhhhiIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That’s one way to make an omelet.
Omelette
Omelette, Oooooooh
Omelette,
Don’t ya know you got to
eat the Omelette
*The all seeing eye of Peter Gabriel spits in my general direction*
CPIMM: Egg – Mr. Bungle
PIXAR makes films while other “studios” are cranking out product.
In the past, they have spent as much as 2 years just working on the scripts … and personally I think that’s at the heart of their long string of hits.
CNBC has been running a great little documentary on PIXAR.
One of the best parts is that former head of Disney (Isner) wanted to swallow up PIXAR after Toy Story, Nemo, and a Bugs life. He was a corporate wank who viewed animation as an “asset” not an art form. He wanted to buy PIXAR, take the characters away from them and start cranking out “straight to video” product.
However, PIXAR majority stock holder Steve Jobs told Isner “No thanks. Oh, and we won’t be renewing our EXISTING deal with you.
Disney shareholders then threw Isner out and got a new CEO who went back to Jobs and worked out a deal where-in Disney got to retain distribution rights for PIXAR films but not ONLY would Disney keep their noses OUT of PIXAR’s creative business … they were now going to let PIXAR have creative control of Disney’s Animation Division!
Talk about full circle.
Even cooler is the fact that the original PIXAR founders had entered into the first degreed, Animation program ever offered at the California University whose name I can’t remember. Those classes were taught by some of the original 9 animators who were there at the start of Disney Animation and had been finally sacked because 70′s corporate Disney thought that Animation was on the way out.
It’s just a fascinating story of the right brilliant minds just happening to be meeting together at just the right points in history.
I know, Joe. It’s amazing isn’t it.
I’ve been following Pixar since the first Luxo shorts were released. I’ve never been disappointed in anything they’ve done. In fact, the worst Pixar movie–”Cars” imo–is still better than what a lot of studios aspire to.
I was very concerned about “Toy Story 3″. This is the only series Pixar has done. No other movie of theirs has sequels. While they Pixar said that they wouldn’t do it unless it was done right, pretty much every studio has screwed up their series by #3. I’m very relieved that Pixar got it right.
I would just like to state, for the record, I hate the Mouse, but I loves me some PiXaR.
*cluck*
I can’t remember the last good animated movie that Disney has done. Maybe “Mulan” which is quite good.
Yes, animation is a hobby of mine. I watch a lot of it.
That was the same Eisner who bought an NHL franchise and insisted on naming it “The Anaheim Mighty Ducks”, against the pleadings and advice of fans, media, NHL officials, and even Disney execs, just to use the team as an advertisement for Disney’s grade-z hockey comedy franchise.
We shake our heads, but it’s sociopath CEOs like that who run the world.
Too true, Jack. Too true.
Dreamworks is the only western animation studio that comes close to competing with Pixar when it comes to feature films, and they only barely do that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks_Animation#Productions
I’ve seen most on that list.
But, in the spirit of positivity:
Toy Story 3 is being called the best so far of the 3-D movies. I hope to see it that way.
Unrelated: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2010/06/why_your_starbucks_barista_hat.php
lmao Jack. Anyone that has worked in the service industry will have run across some similar stuff. Dicks and idiots are everywhere.
I worked at a flea market back when I was a teen. Admission was a quarter. There was more than one person that gave me a $50 thinking I would waive the admission. They were pissed that I had change. They were even more pissed when I gave them a lot of $1 bills.
CP: Imperial Attack — John Williams
Well I suspect I will always have a fondness for the Big 3 that brought Disney back from the brink.
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
Van: I know what you mean.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_theatrical_animated_features
I’ve seen most of these too. Actually, the last good Disney animated film that I saw was “Lilo & Stitch”. I’m going to ignore how they also over-milked the franchise.
I haven’t seen “Bolt” yet, which I hear is pretty good.
According to the PIXAR documentary, Disney’s animated films took a downward spiral because of corporate (yes, Isner again) misunderstanding. The Corp Clowns put all the emphasis on the marketing tie-ins. The films were just vehicles for action figures and theme park attractions. When this led to less then stellar box office sales they responded by cutting budgets … which meant firing production staff and shortening production time. It also meant less time actually writing a good movie to begin with.
This led to more box office losers.
In a page out of that article on how stupid people don’t have the ability to see that they are behaving stupidly … the corporate clowns looked at how their films that were made with their newly revamped and streamlined production process were not as successful as the ones made with the “old” creative process … and they decided that this meant the animated film was a dead media.
PIXAR has fashioned itself around creative process that was developed during Disney’s animation heyday and thrown in a willingness to embrace new technology and they have hit the jackpot. Now that PIXAR will be running Disney’s shop it will be interesting to see if Disney can crank out another hit.
The part of me that loved to go see Disney films when I was a kid sure hopes so.
Now that I think of it …. “Bolt” may have in fact been produced under PIXAR guidance.
Yep!
A quick check of wikipedia -
“In 2006, after becoming Chief Creative Officer at Disney, John Lasseter along with other directors from Pixar and Disney viewed a couple of early cuts of the film and gave Chris Sanders notes on how to improve the story. According to Lasseter, Chris Sanders was replaced because Sanders resisted the changes that Lasseter and the other directors had suggested.”
And let’s not forget Don Bluth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bluth#Filmography
Haven’t forgotten him, Jack. I hadn’t even heard of “Gift of the Hoopoe”.
“Titan A.E.” was fun.
CP: Gift of Ho Hope Poo, Gilligan remix.
Gift of Hope You Poo?
There is an episode of “Gilligan’s Island” where the professor tells a native girl Gilligan’s name and then says “Hohople” like that is what Giligan’s name would be translated as in their native language. Then the girl laughs like, “hohople” means something funny. Others have intrepreted this scene as the Professor giving the island girl Gilligan’s last name. The word “Hoepoo” reminded me of this for some odd reason.
Oooo I kinda want this: http://tinyurl.com/2argy9j
So, I took the kids to see Toy Story 3 this morning.
We opted not to see it in 3D due to the movie times and prices.
It didn’t need to be 3D for it to be…
OMGotch. So. Friggin. Good.
And this isn’t the me that is generally pleased by most things… This movie is really touching and heartfelt and I kinda like that it doesn’t have some great big fat message being shoved down our throats. (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
My not-so-favorite moment in the movie would have to be when Sarah jumped out of her seat and yelled, “Mommy! Why are you crying????”
cough
Kind of a weird synnergy thing going on today. Per the Pixar/Disney discussion I started to think about animation in general. It struck me that I’ve seen every Pixar film except Wall-E, I own Wall-E on DVD, but haven’t watched it in a sitting yet even though the kids have watched it several times. From what I’ve seen, the Wall-E robot resembles the coin operated robot in Wallace and Gromet. Maybe I’ll watch it tonight. I checked my Twitter feed and noticed that Wil Wheaton posted a link about the Tron propaganda poster that CJ linked, which in turn made me think of “Chuck” and his Tron poster. Do you think that Chuck realizes that Awesome’s dad is actually Tron? Anyway the second artical at Wil Wheaton’s website talks about him wanting to create a T-Shirt and chosing the Jinx t-shirt company to produce it because that is the company Felicia Day used for creating “The Guild” t-shirts. He goes on to mention that most of the Jinx t-shirts were to loud for his taste, except for the RPG skeleton one, like the one I was wearing when I met Felicia Day. The circle is complete.
Holy brain dump Batman!
Ho Hope You Poo Brain Dump a Palooza!
Cool info, Rhettro.
And I think you’ll really enjoy Wall-E. I think it’s an excellent movie. The first 20 minutes of the movie has no dialog and yet you’ll really care about Wall-E by that point.
I’ve seen pieces of it, but I really need to give it a proper viewing.
I just wish the ending was a little different.
I’d like to see Pixar try their hand at a space opera. What would their version of Star Wars be like?
Re-purposing Disney:
The Little Barmaid
Beauty and the Beer
Absinthe: The Green Genie
Snow White and the Seven Shots
Alice in Wonderbar
The other video game posters are also excellent. If Trucker Overdrive were still here, he’d appreciate the one for Joust. http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/de7f/
RE: Pixar: I’ve still never seen “Cars” or “Up”.
“Cars” and “Bug’s Life” are probably my least favorite Pixar movies, still good though. “Up” was one of my favorites.
Re-purposing Disney:
Athletics: The Sloshed Umpire
Brother Beer
The Princess and the Grog
The Brokeback of Notre Dame
One Hundred and One Daiquiris
I own all of the above listed Pixar movies except for TS3.
I also love them all. A Bugs Life is Super Awesome for me because it has Denis Leary especially.
Re-purposing Disney:
The Emperor’s New Booze
Slobberin’ Hood
Cointreau: the Flying Pachyderm (BTW: Dumbo probably doesn’t need to be re-purposed… There’s plenty of Elephant drunkenness in that film)
The Many Drunken Adventures of Winnie, All True
Jolt
You’re on a roll, Lejon! In compliance with your theme:
The Appletini Gang
Something Blitzed This Way Staggers
Mulan Lite
BTWFYIFTW: Netflix has a Pixar’s Short Film: Vol. 1 DVD, released in 2007.
I also am in the camp of “Pretty much everything Pixar touches in Gold” camp. Though, I would have to call Ratatouille their nadir, IMHO. Neither the story, nor the rats did much for me.
Just don’t ask me to pick a favorite. That would be unpossible.
Jack… I also have that… What are the odds?
We tried to go see Toy Story 3 this past weekend, but the line was around the corner to buy tickets. We will be going this weekend when my daughter comes back from camp.
*ponders re-purposing Pixar*
“Something Blitzed This Way Staggers”
I had to surpress a audiable snicker from that one.
I need to record a voice mail for Touching the Monolith. I work for AT&T and boy did you guys screw up the linage. I’ll set you guys straight :)
Herbie DUI
The Absinthe Minded Professor
Songs of the Southern Comfort, and Hoes.
e-voice mail recorded. cleaning up and preparing to send :)
Excellent: “Wall-E”, “Up”
Good: “Cars”, though more for the cuteness and eye-candy rather than the story.
I still haven’t made it through “A Bug’s Life”.
I haven’t seen”Up” and I found Wall-E a cute movie to start, but way too heavy handed with its intended message as a whole.
Hmmmm, I’ve heard Cars several times (daughter watching it while I drove) but haven’t seen it. I’ll have to watch that one too.
OK, I’m off. Show prep in about an hour.
Show Prep! WOO WOO!
I can’t remember the last good animated movie that Disney has done. Maybe
Apologies for massing my responses, but the animation topic is close to my heart and I was just now able to sit down and catch up.
—“Mulan” which is quite good.
—Yes, animation is a hobby of mine. I watch a lot of it.
Animation is a huge hobby of mine. As disappointed as I am with the current schlock coming out of Disney, they did have some fantastic movies along the way. I was nearly always happy with their big productions, but then equally disappointed at the straight-to-DVD follow ups (e.g. Aladdin, followed by Return of Jafar, or Lilo & Stitch followed by… well… anything after that with stitch).
—Dreamworks is the only western animation studio that comes close to —competing with Pixar when it comes to feature films, and they only barely —do that.
I give Dreamworks more credit that barely coming close to Pixar. Pixar is more consistant, but some of the Dreamworks stuff (e.g. Shrek, Madagascar, Monsters vs. Aliens and How to Train Your Dragon) are just as good as the Pixar Movies. I just wish all of Dreamworks stuff was that good, or that Dreamworks would put the effort into short films that Pixar has perfected.
—And let’s not forget Don Bluth:
The Secret of NIMH = one of the best movies ever made. Other than that, Don Bluth has done nothing to impress me and everything in the word to piss me off (e.g. An American Tale, Land before Time).
—Netflix has a Pixar’s Short Film: Vol. 1 DVD, released in 2007
We got this from Netflix about a month ago. It was fantastic!
Under the umbrella of great film animators, let us not forget Ralph Bakshi who gave us such wonders as Fritz the Cat and Wizards. I even liked his rotoscoped version of Lord of the Rings.
Finally, lets not forget about non-motion-picture animation. I am, of course, partial to a lot of the older stuff (Warner Brothers, Hannah Barbera (before they went to the Yogi’s Ark type garbage), J. Ward (Rocky & Bullwinkle), Max Fleischer (Popeye and Betty Boop), Walter Lantz (Woody Woodpecker), Underdog, Rankin & Bass). But there has been a lot of fantastic animation coming out after the lul that was the 1980s. John kricfalusi (Ren & Stimpy), Genndy Tartakovsky (Dexter’s Lab, Samurai Jack), Loren Bouchard (Home Movies, Dr. Katz), Matt Groening (The Simpsons, Futurama), Seth McFarlane (Family Guy), Trey Parker and Matt Stone (South Park), and the slew of fantastic series coming from the fine people at Adult Swim. My all-time favorite show that is currently in production is The Venture Brothers. I absolutely CAN’T get enough of this show.
But I digress. To make a long story short (too late), hoopy-doopy for great animation, sloppy cheap crappy animation… well I won’t even say things like this on the
boards.
Disney should remake ‘Fist of the North Star’ as a Disney-esque film.
I know the new show is probably going up soon so I might repost this tomorrow morning.
Please keep your good vibes coming – I interview for my new (possibly) job tomorrow morning!
I didn’t care for the rat movie.
But… I do own it.
Oh I also own the Pixar Shorts volume 1. It’s what’s playing in the DVD player in my car right now.
The kids call it the “All the Movies” movie.
From the “It bears repeating” file:
I’m not applying for the job of CEO…
yet.
Disney… pifff
I enjoyed Fantasia, but I don’t know that I liked it. Very cool, but too disjointed. Then again, I’m still fighting against my dislike of short stories in general.
Lady and the Tramp was blah. I had already read the Jungle Book when I saw their version and hated it for being insipid. I liked Little Mermaid and Beauty & The Beast a lot. I still enjoy re-watching B&B sometimes.
I did not like Aladin, I thought Pocahontas was beautiful but it never grabbed me. I’d read the Hunchback of Notre Dame and wondered how Disney thought they could make a children’s movie out of it. I found out that they thought it was a children’s movie because they added sidekicks. I get angry about Hunchback. They shouldn’t have made it.
I still haven’t seen Mulan. I still intend to. If I remember.
Tarzan was okay. The tree sliding sequence was pretty. I hate the art style in Emperor’s New Groove and haven’t been able to get past it. Ugly ugly ugly. I liked Atlantis, but it wasn’t as good as I think it should be. So I enjoy it, but am disappointed at the same time.
I love Lilo & Stitch. I’m more than a little tempted to suggest using Lilo as a child name. I even enjoyed the vaporous fumes of the TV series… solely as a second hand thing.
Home on the Range was terrible. Skip it. Like, skip it into a lake.
Meet the Robinsons was extremely disappointing. I’m not really sure if it was bad or if I just had really crazy high expectations for some reason. I had much lower expectations for Bolt and so I enjoyed it more, but… compare it to the -other- 2008 animated movie, Wall-e, and Bolt goes from fun to sad.
…
Also! I’ve seen more Disney animated movies than I had realized.
I don’t think Cj is enough of a sociopath to make CEO. That is a good thing.
Rhettro: Your circle was awesome.
Clearly NS doesn’t know me very well.
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Who do I think I’m kidding with that?
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What I hate about Disney: The use of villains as two dimensional stereo types (the bad guy is the person with the foreign accent and the scar). What I like about Disney: You know, I really can’t define it. The older stuff just sort of grabbed me when I was younger. I have almost the opposite taste in Disney films to NS. I thought Fantasia was OK, but mostly boring (aside from the Sorcerer’s Apprentice segment). I liked Aladdin, Alice In Wonderland, Lady and the Tramp, Song of the South, etc. (all of the older stuff), The Lion King, The Emperor’s New Groove, and Lilo & Stitch. Movies that were “meh” at best were The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas (Avatar?), Hunchback, Hercules, Mulan, Atlantis. Movies that just didn’t do it for me were Tarzan, Fantasia 2000, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear and Home on the Range. I haven’t yet seen the Princess and the Frog, but I haven’t heard ANYTHING good about it yet, so I’m not sure when I’ll get around to it.
I feel very fortunate that I saw Disney Films like “Lady and the Tramp”, “Dumbo”, “!01 Dalmations”, “Junglebook” … as a little kid. Thus, as long as I don’t go back and re-visit them they will always be great in my mind.
This is one thing that sets PIXAR apart. They make films you can take kids to … yet are still quite enjoyable for most adults.
I don’t think Dreamworks even hits that mark.
Shreik was enjoyable for adults but I think the humor and content made it inappropriate for the under 10 set (imo).
Madigascar was just a mess as far as who it was targeted for. It’s animation style seemed clearly aimed at the under 10 set while the humor/jokes/innuendo seemed clearly aimed at the mid-teen date crowd. I found it mildly amusing but was glad I was seeing a dvd copy that someone else had paid for.
BTW: just finished watching US vs. Algeria in World Cup Soccer (TiVo’d).
Wow!
I think maybe this European “Futball” thing could catch on.
Considering my kid plays soccer, I thought he’d be more interested in the Cup. So far, he watched about 20 minutes, and then start channel flipping again.
… don’t do it
When you want to go to it
I was disappointed with the new Futurama.