Low-Budget Show Notes.
Jack Mangans Deadpan #178: Dark Star Datapalooza 2 Special guest – Vanamonde!
Jack and Van discuss Dark Star
Other Dark Star Content submitted by:
Ed from Texas
Amy Bowen
UsedHair
Justa J0e
Send in content: 206-350-Tomi (8664) or e-mail: sphericaljackmatgmaildotcom
Closing music: “Love Is Never Distant”









Me too. Im sorry work sucks so bad Ess.
I think the earliest I can remember seeing people do this was in the Superman movie where he flew around the world in the opposite direction really fast and made time run backwards. People were really upset about the bad science of this, but not with any of the bad science that allows the color of a sun to allow super strength, or the ability to fly, or the other bad science that goes into creating superpowers. What’s worse is that I was one of the people upset about that I’m griping about.
Thank you, dear. I’m more tired that feeling the work suck. Cranky!
“Work Suck”
Spellwight is in Colorado, tweeting and facebooking about who she might get to visit while she is there…
What’s she doin’ here, Cj? I don’t know her very well . . .
I know she won’t be visiting me
Nobody comes to Canada… except maybe someone Van knows who might be visiting Manitoba polar bears (I’m assuming that’s why you asked a few days ago Van)
EssBee,
She’s be traveling across country and she’s on her way back.
Bunny, I might get up to your hood one of these days. My brother-out-law and his family live in Hobbema. We might make a trip in the next few years, and I’m definitely coming to see you if we do.
I debating on getting a new desk today. I need one, but it’s a matter of whether or not I get it today.
I also need to find someplace to get good pop. The place I used to get it doesn’t sell it any more. I’m almost out and we have people coming over for gaming tonight.
I haven’t decided if I want to get (and put together) a desk and search for pop today. Maybe just one or the other.
EssBee, my guest room is always ready for you and Sly B.
It’s was for me and my sister TEB, she wanted to go this year but I can’t get my holidays changed so it will have to be next year now.
Right back atcha, Bunny and Mr. Bunny.
So pop doesn’t equal soft drink?
Manitoba! You’re coming to Canada and will be soooo far from me? Why not the Rocky Mountains? Banff is really nice. Or Canmore. You can then go to the Tyrell and see dinosaurs!
I’d love to see Canada someday, especially the part with the cutest bunny.
Pop is a soft drink here. It’s also what you do to balloons and bubbles.
*hugs to Cj and EssBee*
Just don’t visit in the height of winter. I won’t drive the highways, especially in the mountains, in the snow and ice.
Snow?
I don’t “do” snow.
Snow and cold are four letter words, not to be said in polite company.
Says the girl who lives in CALGARY!!
UsedHair: About science in movies: I only nitpick when a movie presents itself as “realistic”. Take Deep Impact vs Armageddon. I’d be far more critical of science in Deep Impact because it tries to be serious about it. That’s less of a problem with Armageddon, and even though the science is atrocious in it–urgh! Don’t get me started!–I can still enjoy it as a mindless action-adventure movie. Besides, Peter Stormare as Lev was awesome. :)
B-Movies rarely ever take themselves seriously. They are camp and meant to be enjoyed, not analyzed. Roger Corman movies are great examples.
Superhero movies are somewhat similar: they are set in a world where our physics don’t apply. If you can’t get past that then you’ll drive yourself crazy picking apart the illogic in Superman, Batman, etc.
“”do”"
The girl from Calgary keeps her house set at 23C (73.4F). Hubby always wears shorts in the house.
don’t “do”
Doobie doobie do
” ” ‘ do ‘ ” “
“doobie”
BTW, I never really liked 2001. It puts me to sleep. Every time.
Its not that good ditto. “Ahead of its time” and all. But not real good.
I tend to judge a movie based on the rules it sets up for itself. I’ll totally buy into a world of make believe physics that don’t contradict the premise as told by the story. So it did bother me during the first season of Heroes were Peter needed the aid of his flying brother to dispose of the bomb, when it was already established that Peter absorb the ability to fly from his brother earlier. But if in the Dark Star world, planets occasionally fly out of their orbit and into their suns causing them to explode, well maybe they do in “that” universe. LOL
Rhettro: I’d agree with that. The reality should be consistent with what the world building set it up as. It’s the inconsistencies, the dumb stuff, that throw me out of the movie.
I read the book before seeing the movie “2001″ so that gave me enough backstory to enjoy it. Otherwise I don’t think I would have. My father, on the other hand, loved the movie without having read the book, saying that there was enough things visually present to tell the story. I think that movie “Moon” did a better job of that.
LMAO: Catwoman, Julie Newmar, wearing a Harajuku Love shirt.
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/09/02/cartoonist-pete-emsl-1.html
Harajuku is considered the fashion center of Tokyo.
She doesn’t look happy.
I don’t think I’ve seen 2001. Knowing myself, though, if it’s boring, I wouldn’t make it through anyway!
Yep, inconsistencies. That’s what gets under my skin as well ditto.
actually, she looks terrified.
Wow, she still has a figure. Go Cat Woman!
Headline:
“Van starts nearly 12 grass fires”
Oh, Kat Von D . . .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/03/jesse-james-kat-von-d-ste_n_704735.html
Kat told People that she thinks Jesse is “The One.”
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
“Jesse is only my ninth boyfriend. I don’t hang out with anybody unless I am in love,” she said.
Hmmmmm…… really? Methinks youre getting 2 “L” words confused, honey.
Kat, Jesse is a Nazi. Just FYI.
Jesse ain’t looking too hunky these days either, imo.
I did see a Discovery Channel show a few years back debunking the poor comic book science, basically disproving the possibility for a being like the Hulk to even displace mass like that, in such large amounts, debunking Spider-Man’s superstrong, superthin webs, etc.
He clearly has a “type” as well.
Yeah hes gross.
I actually really like Kat. She’s a brilliant business woman and does amazing portraits.
With poor taste in men?
Yes. I think boyfriend #8 was Nikki Sixx.
CP: The Good Life — Cracker
I thought it was Alex ‘Orbi’ Orbison. Maybe he was #7. she goes thru em like water it seems.
Why the hell do I know this…..
Why the hell *do* you know that Lo? ;)
*sobs* Google made me do it!
I admit it, I watch L.A. Ink.
Thats supposed to be a good show. Ive never seen it.
justa JOe, your comment on Dark Star cracked me up because every time I think of the film (of which I only saw a few minutes), I think of the song. Twisted minds think alike, bro.
Well Bunnies are all very nice, but I want to see Polar Bears that are not in a Zoo.
I like the advice on the Churchill site, if you run into a Polar bear out in the wild then:
Don’t run
Don’t play dead
So today I saw ‘The Secret in Their Eyes’ which was rather good and didn’t deserve me dosing off for 5 minutes in the middle.
Off to South Dakota for the weekend. Later, no good mutha bitches!
Big Trouble in Little South Dakota.
Have fun, LP.
Have fun Lo!
Will he be taking the Porkchop Express?
Oh crap. I forgot to take something out for dinner.
This is the strangest life I’ve ever known.
Well, Jack then you haven’t met MINE!
Oh wait… yes you have.
Wow..
Something you’ll rarely hear me say… this may be the first and last time…
But dang..
I think I need a massage.
I don’t like massages, but seriously.. my shoulders could use some rough-lovin’ right now…
“rough-lovin’”
You offering?
snigger!
And we’re off!
Everyone have a great, safe US holiday weekend.
I should be back on tomorrow.
You too!
Cj, oh my . . .
Let me think about . . .
ok!
Have fun storming the weekend!
Essbee – I had hoped to subvert the entire deadpan and get that song stuck in EVERYONE’s cpimm ! :D
Hey Pan
I have no comment on Kat Von D’s personal life but she has some amazing makeup I have to say.
When I first saw her line of makeup announced, I scoffed at it. She’s a tattoo artist not a makeup artist, who cares???
But then I freelanced at Sephora for a while and they had this wonderful room I truly truly miss where you can go and take samples of almost anything. So I picked up some of her concealer and liquid eyeliner and I am totally addicted.
and I also discovered L’Occitane this way too
If any of you lady panitas out there have ever struggled with finding a good moisturizer… omg.
They are expensive, but seriously you only use a tiny amount of product and the stuff is made by french skin gods. I swear it.
Everything they make is amazing. Foot and hand lotion, face moisturizer. They have this amazing sensitive skin relief stuff. I use it for around my eyes.
sorry I have once again swooned about make up on Deadpan
A big sale on the app store:
http://www.148apps.com/news/crazy-labor-day-app-sale-returns-tons-099-games-apps/#more-48454
back to Kat Von D
Amazing tattoo artist, but if I remember from Miami Ink she was kinda a spoiled brat
Hi Van!
I’ll have to check out that app sale! :)
night pan
good morning van
TSH – there can never be too much swooning over makeup.
My entire being goes into a sort of jelly-like existence when I get within 20 feet of Sephora….
Then it’s as though invisible taffy-pullers are yanking my body into the store… I really don’t even have the will to put up a fight.
I do not understand the makeup conversation, but am a sucker for a good moisturizer.
Agree – Kat Von D is an amazing artist. She is a brat, but I wouldn’t mind letting her tattoo me.
We’re off to re-celebrate Sly B’s birthday with my folks, along with their anniversary.
The 13 books people say they’ve read but haven’t:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/03/lying-about-books_n_703762.html#s133798
I’ve read 8 of these; will likely never read the other 5 – As I Lay Dying makes my top 20 all time favorite novels. I did earn a Master’s in American Lit, so have an excuse.
I love it when Jack digresses.
*swooon*
Van sounds pretty swoonworthy too.
I may listen to this one a few times.
I love the way Van says, “Makin’ a sandwich.”
swoon
*swoooooooooooon*
Hmph!
So I’ve read only 2 on that list (A Christmas Carol and A brief History of Time).
I thought I understood the latter..which probably means I really didn’t
Now if you want obscure:
http://www.zxdesign.info/book/
Hey Pan
I’ve read two books on the list and attempted and third but never finished it (Moby Dick). I take umbrage at them saying I would lie about reading those books. I’m not ashamed to say I have or haven’t read a book. I take pride in the fact I’m a boorish lout
Now, where’s my pipe and cognac?
Ooooh, I remember reading that book, Van.
(kidding, never heard of it
)
That was my quick pop in for the day. Now to relax and enjoy the long weekend.
Later Pan.
Does beer count as a moisturizer?
Big project weekend.
Oiy
I’ve read none of those books.
I’ve read “1984″ at least 4 times though..
and “Lord of the Flies” twice
So, I think I spend my time re-reading things I’ve already read instead of reading new stuff.
EssBee: I’ve read 5.
Van: Looks like a good book to pick up. I’ve read some similar things, but I still enjoy reading some good technical books.
Just finished putting the first coat of varnish on our dining room window frame.
*sniff*
Oooooooooh. Look at the pretty colours. :)
I must freely admit to having actually read none of those. At least two I’d never heard of before seeing them on this list. Have seen movie versions of a a few of them.
I read Don Quixote, A Brief History of Time, Moby Dick, A Christmas Carol. I would really like to read The Name of the Rose.
My big project for this weekend consists of writing a novel… novella… thing. I don’t know how long this story will go, but I’ve been planning to write it this weekend for an entire month now.
Does it count if you have read the script for a Christmas Carol ?
No?
Then I guess I’ve read none of these.
My big project … THE GARAGE! *dum dum dummmmmm*
Getting some cabinets next week so I have to move the “stuff” that is in the way.
Over a decade worth of “stuff”. :(
I’ve spent the last hour setting up a stereo system out there.
This job is going to require some MAJOR tuneage.
I wonder what the sci-fi version of that list would be. For starters we would have to get rid of the “claim to have read” part. Geeks are far too aware that other will crucify them if they claim to have read books that they haven’t. I think we should change it to either
a: The top 10 sci-fi books that people quote from, but have never read (Dune would be at the top of that list for me)
b: The top 10 pieces of great science fiction literature that most geeks have only seen the movie of (Dune would be at the top of that list for me)
I should get bonus points for reading Battlefield Earth and while I may not have read A Christmas Carol, I have seen Scrooged multiple times.
Now that I think about it, list b would could be simplified down to a list of Phillip K Dick books.
tweet
I have the song “Holy Diver” on repeat in my brain. Apparently I’ve been down too long in the midnight sea. Oh what’s becoming of me?
/tweet
I agree, UsedHair. I’d be much more interested in a Sci-fi (and Fantasy) edition of such a list.
I’d certainly have a better chance of having read some of them.
Alright, so the new version of Digg seems to have gone a pissed everyone off and people say Reddit is the place to go now. One of the tech podcasts I listen to said that commenters on Reddit were more useful and helpful.
I’ve been poking around Reddit for the last few days and I can’t say that commenters there aren any more or less likely to be douchebags than they are on Digg.
Punks.
Ed, I know Reddit is the site that does the comments for the Loaded Dice strip that my Boo does the artwork for (blatant plug http://www.rdinn.com/comic.php). the people of Loaded Dice are very hit and miss with Reddit and are of the opinion most of the commentators are from people who aren’t into D & D
commentators = comments
Something to play with:
http://www.chromeexperiments.com/arcadefire/
Re: Beer as moisturizer:
Hugh recommends soaking in a beer filled bath once a week. It is how he keeps his skin so glowing and soft.
Re: Sephora
CJ we are Sephora soul sisters. I have the same problem.
To Justa j0e
Good luck with your garage project
To Amy Bowen
Good luck with your writing
To ditto swooon
Stop sniffing varnish! You’ll kill brain cells :)
Hugh sez: I love the smell of varnish, painting oils, paints, gesso, pastels, gauche, printing ink. Swooon indeed.
I admit to loving the smell of all of those things and photo chemicals too.
I love how after a good painting session the house would smell of paint for days. I miss that :) swoon indeed 2
Re 13 books
Canterbury Tales
Hugh: yay Dre: yay
we bought an illustrated version of this on our honeymoon when we were in London and we both read it.
Democracy in America
Hugh: nay Dre: nay
Ulysses
Hugh: yay Dre: yay
Christmas Carol
Hugh: yay Dre: yay (if listening to it counts)
Hugh read Christmas Carol to 1 set of his nieces and nephews who were staying with us for a time. That was how I read it. I hadn’t read it before then.
Satanic Verses
Hugh: nay Dre: yay/nay- read half
I read it to see what all the hoopla was about and it lost me. Never passed it on to Hugh to read.
Moby Dick
Hugh: yay Dre: yay
I love that book!!
A Brief History of Time
Hugh: nay Dre: nay
Infinite Jest
Hugh: nay Dre: nay
The Name of the Rose
Hugh: nay Dre: nay
In Search of lost time
Hugh nay Dre nay
Don Quixote
Hugh yay Dre yay
As I Lay Dying
Hugh nay Dre nay
War and Peace
Hugh yay Dre nay
anyone here set up your iTunes Ping account?
Don’t bother. It gets a big Smarty Hottie: BOO!!!!
Only 2 of the many bands I would follow were on it
Madonna and Nine Inch Nails
Big boo iTunes
They didn’t even have New Order, or Skinny Puppy, or Twilight Singers or Sleigh Bells or many others I searched for.
and no offense to my sweet Trent Reznor, but his other band How To Destroy Angels has a Ping page but Skinny Puppy doesn’t??
C’mon now. wtf?
So now my Ping Artists list consists of:
NIN
Trent Reznor
How To Destroy Angels
Madonna
that is not acceptable by my standards.
Although I appreciate that Trent’s band are totally represented. I heart him.
Ok wait Hugh pointed out something
wethinks the artist has to make their band page.. interesting.
Cuz like Trents pages he has all these comments and stuff on. So he probably made the Trent and HTDA pages. Madonnas page just says she hasn’t added anything. I think it would be up to the artist to maintain it.
Or in Madonnas case her minions would update it :)
I would be Madonnas Ping updater minion
Hugh sez: no, you are my minion woman!
Yes my lord. I am sorry. *eye roll*
Hugh My Lord sez: don’t roll your eyes at your lord!
My Lord and I are calling it a night
night pan
night mush
night Trent swoon
*ahem*
all in favor of Jack Mangan making himself a Ping page say yay
Hugh: yay
Dre: yay
The Ataris that never got off the drawing board:
http://m.kotaku.com/5629846/the-ataris-that-never-were/gallery/
Doesn’t just happen in the USA:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1309136/Lifted-like-rag-doll-hurled-cell-Shocking-video-police-brutality–5ft-2in-tall-59-year-woman.html
The guy who does podcast 411 was asking podcasters to setup ping accounts.
So that’s a Yah from me!
ping
The tech podcasts that I follow have been thoroughly unimpressed with Ping after trying it for the lat few days. Apparently one big problem is Apple put in no provisions for dealing with SPAM comments and the Spammers have turned it into a litterbox.
Starshipsofa won the Hugo..woot!
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/09/05/congrats-to-the-hugo-winners/
I don’t know what Ping is.
I don’t want to Google it.
I want to go back to bed.
To sleep perchance to dream….
Stupid brain wouldn’t fall asleep last night. I get up at 4 fricken a.m. so I can be here at work by 5:30 fricken a.m. and at 11 fricken p.m. I’m looking at the clock thinking “why the frick am I still awake”
My brain sure is stupid for being as smart as I’m supposed to be.
Now THIS is FUN and a little addictive…
http://www.youtube.com/user/tippexperience
You have put the word “farts” in the box (see previous link) even though it seems childish (which it is) it’s so funny!
So.Funny.
I’m 12
A blog post about a couples visit to an arcade museum in Moscow:
http://adangerousbusiness.com/2010/01/05/the-museum-of-soviet-video-games/
Awesome post, Van.
I’m just not a huge Sheryl Crow fan. Dan likes when I sing that one song of hers at karaoke… the one that repeats entirely too much.
Crap… what’s it called? Something about Sunshine… ummm
Soak up the Sun.. that’s the one.
meh
I want to Ping you like an animal.
I wonder if “Ping” will get a 404 on Cj’s bear site. . .
I did my best to notice
When the call came down the line
Up to the platform of surrender
I was brought but I was kind
And sometimes I get nervous
When I see an open door
Close your eyes, clear your heart
Cut the cord
Are we human or are we dancer?
My sign is vital, my hands are cold
And I’m on my knees looking for the answer
Are we human or are we dancer?
Pay my respects to grace and virtue
Send my condolences to good
Hear my regards to soul and romance
They always did the best they could
And so long to devotion
You taught me everything I know
Wave goodbye, wish me well
You’ve gotta let me go
Are we human or are we dancer?
My sign is vital, my hands are cold
And I’m on my knees looking for the answer
Are we human or are we dancer?
Will your system be alright
When you dream of home tonight
There is no message we’re receiving
Let me know, is your heart still beating?
Are we human or are we dancer?
My sign is vital, my hands are cold
And I’m on my knees looking for the answer
Are we human or are we dancer?
You’ve gotta let me know
Are we human or are we dancer?
My sign is vital, my hands are cold
And I’m on my knees looking for the answer
Are we human or are we dancer?
CD: – THE weekend project.
Day 2
Black Sheep – Metric
Hello again, friend of a friend, I knew you when
Our common goal was waiting for the world to end
Now that the truth is just a rule that you can bend
You crack the whip, shapeshifting trick, the past again
i’ll send you my love on a wire
Lift you up, everytime, everyone, ooo, pulls away, ooo
From you
Got balls of steel, got an automobile, for a minimum wage
Got real estate, I’m buying it all up in outerspace
Now that the truth is just a rule that you can bend
You crack the whip, shapeshifting trick, the past again
I’ll send you my love on a wire
Lift you up, everytime, everyone, ooo, pulls a way, oo
Mechanical bull, the number one
You’ll take a ride from anyone, everyone wants a ride,
pulls away, oooh from you
CR: Scott Pilgrim and the Infinite Sadness
TSH: Thank you! I wrote about 1,000 words yesterday. It would have been more, except that one of my friends invited me to go to Disneyland, so I did.
I have read excerpts from Don Quixote, but that’s it for me from that list.
1K !!!
Good going Amy!
“except that one of my friends invited me to go to Disneyland”
I soooo wish that was a common euphemism.
Like say, “I am so tired today. I was going to turn in early last night except this girl I know invited me to go to Disneyland.”
I am going to take issue with the fact that Amy writes
“invited me to go to Disneyland, so I did.”
in the same post as a
face….
Those two things do not belong together.
Oh! Flarbengarble! Now I’ve gone and done the same thing!
*hangs head*
CP: Sk8er Boi – Avril Lavigne
I
this song.
You aren’t alone in that regard Cj.
There is also a nice cover of that song in ‘Elite Beat Agents’ for the NDS.
Decaying socialist monuments in Bulgaria:
http://www.lindaferrari.it/reportages/monumenti/index.html
A web comic to check out:
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/about.html
Good morning, my lovable Deadpanites!